kennym Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Ok so while out shooting nothing about so I decided to check out the beck side I know there's fox there so I wanted to check out for fresh diggings, Earlier on I had seen a deer in the field, I was tucked up & it didn't see me maybe 15 yards away untold I stood up. The. Later stomping down the beck side I saw a young deer jus 10 feet away I just looked at me I'd did think it looked loverly ..... Loverly & tasty that is I was loaded with 50g 3s which I think would of done the job at ten feet but admittedly not knowing if it would be a clean kill or if there was any legal implications I just enjoyed the view & took some pics. For a opportunist kill was my load viable & would it of been a legal shot I had full permission & the farmer would of loved half a deer. I always say if you don't know ask . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 I suspect that you will get the full blast of your 50g 3's when others read this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) Well done on not shooting it! If it was a munty (which it appears to be fron what i can see on my phone) then .223 minimum and if anything else then .243 or bigger required but then it would have been a youngster and not shot. Your description of small deer implies you could not identify the species though and therefore know the season or sex. Edited July 1, 2013 by oscarsdad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Dom Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 looking at the pic it looks to be very young as it still has white spots in its coat (not sure how old exactly tho as i have no experiance with deer) so well done for not shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotShot! Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 looks like a young roe to me ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 looks like a young roe to me ? I would agree now I have zoomed in - certainly not a munty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennym Posted July 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 I suspect that you will get the full blast of your 50g 3's when others read this post. Why would that be I didn't know if it was wrong or right so didn't do it ? Instead I asked advice if I was to want to take up deer stalking I would be all over the rules & regulation to make sure I was doing it right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) Well done on not shooting it! If it was a munty (which it appears to be fron what i can see on my phone) then .223 minimum and if anything else then .243 or bigger required but then it would have been a youngster and not shot. Your description of small deer implies you could not identify the species though and therefore know the season or sex.Depending which country you are in would determine what caliber and bullet weight shotuns can be used..not sure on exact laws as I have no interest in shooting bambi but it can be done. .. .certain shot size etc. Well done for not pulling the trigger and you are right, it is better to ask, atleast then you know...but...prepare for the high and mighty members to have a go Edited July 1, 2013 by TJ91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennym Posted July 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Thanks! Picking up on your last point TJ91 If people think its appropriate to ..have a go at me For not shooting when I wasn't sure, and then for admitting I don't know everything about shooting & asking those who may know more for advice then I'm really not sure I would want to listen to such people as it says more about them and there commitment to furthering the shooting community than it does about me. But you know how it is some people just want to feel good about them selves at any cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn2233 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) Thanks! Picking up on your last point TJ91 If people think its appropriate to ..have a go at me For not shooting when I wasn't sure, and then for admitting I don't know everything about shooting & asking those who may know more for advice then I'm really not sure I would want to listen to such people as it says more about them and there commitment to furthering the shooting community than it does about me. But you know how it is some people just want to feel good about them selves at any cost nice picture mate and well done for not pulling the trigger Edited July 1, 2013 by martyn2233 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Thanks! Picking up on your last point TJ91 If people think its appropriate to ..have a go at me For not shooting when I wasn't sure, and then for admitting I don't know everything about shooting & asking those who may know more for advice then I'm really not sure I would want to listen to such people as it says more about them and there commitment to furthering the shooting community than it does about me. But you know how it is some people just want to feel good about them selves at any cost Yeah fair play to ya mate, you did nothing wrong. If you have deer on the land maybe look into you dsc1 and getting a suitable caliber firearm. Sure there plenty of folks on here who can advice you on the right channels. Fairly sure a shotgun with a large load would kill most things at 10ft Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 It would be a good idea to familiarize yourself with The Deer Act, that will give you all the information that you need regarding the legalities of shooting deer. Get it right first time, rather than taking advice from a few on here that have not much more idea than yourself. Well done for asking before pulling the trigger though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) 50 grams of no 3 shot would certainly have killed it stone dead at 10 feet . But you would have committed an offense by using a shotgun . A shotgun can be used under certain conditions with the permission of the land owner . The deer would have to have been eating a drilled crop or any other commercial planting and causing damage . The cartridge that you had in your gun was totally unacceptable for the use on deer . You would need 00buck ,ssg ,or slugs to do a proper job . Incidently I think the deer is a young fallow or roe deer . You did right not to shoot it ,in or out of season . Harnser . Edited July 1, 2013 by Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 You need a rifle and you are fairly unique in asking for advice - so just because you havent shot a deer before doesnt mean you merit criticism - far the reverse in my book and as some have said good on you for asking. To me its a young roe so you have others about. Get your farmer to confirm in writing you can shoot deer on the land and put in for a 243 or .308 - assuming the lands cleared you may get mentoring so take someone out with you and learn - meet the conditions and you'll be away with the mixer. Good man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXHUNTER1 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Its a roe kid. You did the right thing by not shooting. Get yourself a rifle and stick within the law... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Harnser has spelt the law out and you did the right thing not shooting. However it's worth knowing had it been injured you could have shot it legally with what you had but that is the only instance. It's also not a muntjac by the looks of things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Well done for not giving into temptation it would have got you into trouble. You would have killed it as said but not legally in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mereside Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 nice picture , i saw my first roe kid of this year last weekend and nice to see ,no point in pulling the trigger at that age unless its the camera trigger that is . looks to me that it is a roe kid ,black muzzle and white bottom lip atb wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty J Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 (edited) Definitely a young Roe. Edited July 2, 2013 by Marty J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Yes, it is a Roe kid, well done for not shooting. The rules for the use of a shotgun are as stated previously, but the only shot you can legally use are AAA or a single non spherical projectile (slug) of not less than 350 grains. The calibre of shot gun is to be not less than 12 gauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Yes, it is a Roe kid, well done for not shooting. The rules for the use of a shotgun are as stated previously, but the only shot you can legally use are AAA or a single non spherical projectile (slug) of not less than 350 grains. The calibre of shot gun is to be not less than 12 gauge. Actually it's shot size AAA and above and as you say, only for those exempt under the act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 (edited) Actually it's shot size AAA and above and as you say, only for those exempt under the act. OMG, I was going buy what is stated in DBPG for England and Wales, which is obviously the minimum requirement. Sorry that I did not make this obvious in my post, but I am sure that the less pedantic members will have understood the meaning in my statement. My reason for mentioning this is that a friend stated 00 shot as the required size and I thought that I would elaborate but should have stated that you can go down to AAA as a minimum. :no: Edited July 5, 2013 by Blunderbust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) Yes definetly a young Roe, would have been a shame to shoot the fawn with anything, legal or not. Its a great temptation for many and well done for not killing it. Though the deer laws are a joke by the lack of enforcement but the laws are there as stated by the above posts also the deer are protected by seasons, in this case it would have been extremely difficult to determine if this was a buck or doe. Your a noble fella as many, especially those out at night with lamps after other quarry,would not have spared this young deer. Edited July 9, 2013 by Redgum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Sniper Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 looks like a young roe to me ? Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 (edited) looks like a young roe to me ?It is a very young Roe Doe Wow - I can't believe someone nought it was a Munty! Edited August 3, 2013 by Tommo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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