madhunter Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Hi all. Wonder if any of you could help my decision making any easier. Which gun should I choose. And which gun would you choose and why. Thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Do you like getting a good kicking? Get the ultralight, are you looking new? How do they fit? What's your quarry? Game? Clay? Vermin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cawdor118 Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Silver Pigeon Special for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Silver Pigeon Classic for me Clays the 12 bore is heavier making it a steadier gun. Drive game 12 or 20 as they will be well balanced and heavy enough to absorb the recoil of a fair few shots but still light enough for the short distance they need carrying Walked up 28 bore (due soon) fast handling points well if like other SP 28 bores but light enough to carry all day with out tiring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhunter Posted November 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Sorry. I forgot a few specifics. Its purely for pheasant days and will be new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Try before you buy. Light guns don't suit everyone, and often feel great in the shop, but the recoil can be a problem after a few cartridges in the field. Recoil is something that affects some people much more than others, and how it affects people is also very dependant on the fit. For example, some people get bruised cheeks, others bruised fingers, others a sore shoulder - and some a headache! Someone else may shoot the same gun and cartridge combination with no problem at all. You don't say how many cartridges in a day, but I shoot perhaps 25 or 30 cartridges through a fairly light s/s 12 bore on a pheasant day and find 30g cartridges are just fine. If I shoot clays I use 21g cartridges and could happily shoot a lot of these. On that basis, I think you could try an Ultralight, try a few different loads and see if it 'works for you'. It will be quite 'lively'. If, however, you intend to shoot a couple of hundred 32g cartridges on a pheasant day, I don't think I would even bother to try an Ultralight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhunter Posted November 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Its seems common that the ultralight gold has some kick issues. I use a semi for my pigeon shooting a400 xplor. The gun is so light yet the kick is minimal. I wonder why the ultralight gold give so much kick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteri Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 With the semi, firstly you've got the recoil mechanism which will take some of the kick? And also (definitely) the weight distribution is different. I tried an Ultralight my wife had loaned, and whilst I wasn't bothered directly by the recoil in terms of bruising etc I'd definitely rate it as the most unpleasant (to me) 12bore I've shot. (Now I'm a beginner, but that means I've shot pretty much every gun I can get my hands on!) I think it's the weight distribution, that doesn't work for some people - whether that's because of the alloy block or not needs more knowledge than I have! Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Do you like getting a good kicking? Get the ultralight, are you looking new? How do they fit? What's your quarry? Game? Clay? Vermin? take no notice. have had an ultralight for years and often put 3 - 400 28g through it on clays and up to 32g on game (not 3 - 400 shells though). If your mount is good you'll get no kicking same as any other gun really. That said it wont be too comfortable with 42g loads through it but then you wouldnt buy one for this would you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 If it's just for pheasants and maybe clays preseason to practice then you will be carrying it between pegs in a slip, get the spotter, heavier and steadier and will Obsorbe heavy loads you'd want to use to bring down a pheasant humanly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 If it's just for pheasants and maybe clays preseason to practice then you will be carrying it between pegs in a slip, get the spotter, heavier and steadier and will Obsorbe heavy loads you'd want to use to bring down a pheasant humanly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikky Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 dont want to hijack the thread,but i am thinking of getting a berretta or browning.....one question...which of the berretas does not have an auto safety...was going to get the silver pig.1 but i believe it has the auto safety,i dont want to be switching it everytime i shoot ( clays ) or do the all have auto safety ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 dont want to hijack the thread,but i am thinking of getting a berretta or browning.....one question...which of the berretas does not have an auto safety...was going to get the silver pig.1 but i believe it has the auto safety,i dont want to be switching it everytime i shoot ( clays ) or do the all have auto safety ? Get it disconnected very quick and simple job for a smith or anyone that knows their way around a Beretta action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 take no notice. have had an ultralight for years and often put 3 - 400 28g through it on clays and up to 32g on game (not 3 - 400 shells though). If your mount is good you'll get no kicking same as any other gun really. That said it wont be too comfortable with 42g loads through it but then you wouldnt buy one for this would you ? Shoot one before you buy.....(where are you?) Auto safety easily remedied, can either have the tab cut or removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungle The Bear Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 I owned an ultralight for a few years finally sold it, recoil is an issue trust me !!! and I have a consistent mount, its so light its quick to swing but also quick to stop. I seem to shoot far better with a heavier sported now, but if its what you fancy go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 I owned an ultralight for a few years finally sold it, recoil is an issue trust me !!! and I have a consistent mount, its so light its quick to swing but also quick to stop. I seem to shoot far better with a heavier sported now, but if its what you fancy go for it. well recoil is most definitely not an issue for me putting up to 32g through it. Maybe its something to do with physique too ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominicrobed Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Well found out today I have a nice amount of ££ coming in about a month , going to get me a classic just not sure 12g or 20g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shropshire_Lad Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Well found out today I have a nice amount of ££ coming in about a month , going to get me a classic just not sure 12g or 20g Try them both for fit. I have a sp1 20 bore and a 12 bore Evo and the 20 bore is a lot higher in the comb than the 12 . atvb Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhunter Posted November 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 U guys are suppossed to make the decision easier!!!!! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Go for the SO5 at least let the birds die with dignity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhunter Posted November 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Silver pigeon classic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HDAV Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Did you try an ultralight? Good looking gun 12 or 20? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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