rimmie Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) Hi all, we've just bought our first house and it needs full central heating install. I'm getting a plumber to come and fit it all,but I'm getting all the copper pipe and rad's and hopefully the boiler.so my question is, what would you recommend as good reliable 30kw + combi ? Been told to stay away from :- Vocard Harrosden Alpha And possibly ideal ? Seen some good priced 30-35 kW combis on evil bay with 5-7 year warranty, but I don't know what's a good make or not. Obviously I know Worcester etc.. Are very good,but there also very expensive. Thoughts please Edited December 1, 2013 by rimmie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLuke Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Worcester Bosch Vaillant Glow worm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Halstead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seph234 Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) +1 on Worcester. if you think your saving a few hundred quid in the first place just think about a couple of years down the line when bits start giving up on the cheaper boiler. Edited December 1, 2013 by seph234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmfrank Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 + 2 on Worcester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I'd go for a Intergas boiler. In fact I did so did my parents and my sister. Only four moving parts and most parts are interchangeable across the range. A lot of heating engineers in my area have been fitting them for a few years now and had no problems/call backs with them. Not silly prices like with some manufacturers. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del T Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Worcester 29cdi. The daddy. Three years in a row winner of which best boiler. Our company have installed them since the late 70s! Every boiler job we price gets a Worcester. Steer clear from the others(apart from vaillant) they may be cheap to buy but if you need manufacturer backup you'll be sat on hold for a while and the spare parts prices are obscene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shalfordninja33 Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I had Glow worm 38cxi put in the loft of our 3 bed semi last year. Really good. I'm sure they're owned by valiant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Worcester or Vaillant, easy really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cushies Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Another for Worcester, They're doing a 5 year warranty instead of two until the end of the year so must be worth considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I fit Vaillants. If you get an installer who has signed up to their scheme, and done their course, you can get a 7 year warranty on the ecotec range. I find them much easier to work on than Worcesters if anything needs replacing and get very few problems with them. Like all boilers, the quality of the installation and commissioning makes a big difference to their longevity and trouble free operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seph234 Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I fit Vaillants. If you get an installer who has signed up to their scheme, and done their course, you can get a 7 year warranty on the ecotec range. I find them much easier to work on than Worcesters if anything needs replacing and get very few problems with them. Like all boilers, the quality of the installation and commissioning makes a big difference to their longevity and trouble free operation. Totally agree with you Tim, it is the quality of the install and commissioning that makes a big difference the amount of problems you get called to and when you look into it, its because the system was not flushed through properly before installing a new boiler (not by me) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) We have mainly worcester and a couple of vaillants fitted in our houses. We personally prefer worcester. Even got one in our own house Edited December 1, 2013 by Malik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cushies Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) I fit Vaillants. If you get an installer who has signed up to their scheme, and done their course, you can get a 7 year warranty on the ecotec range. I find them much easier to work on than Worcesters if anything needs replacing and get very few problems with them. Like all boilers, the quality of the installation and commissioning makes a big difference to their longevity and trouble free operation. I forgot to say if you get it fitted by a Worcester accredited installer you can also get an extended guarantee of up to seven years. Edited December 1, 2013 by Cushies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimmie Posted December 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Thanks for all the help lads, one of you nice PW plumbers doesn't want to get me a Worcester or valiant trade, and il stick a nice drink on top do they, pretty please !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Hope your mate is a gas safe engineer and not a 'plumber',Worcester or Ideal if you on a budget,they have improved lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Totally agree with you Tim, it is the quality of the install and commissioning that makes a big difference the amount of problems you get called to and when you look into it, its because the system was not flushed through properly before installing a new boiler (not by me) Absolutely. There are no end of people out there who do boiler swaps in a day for a few hundred quid. I wouldn't let any of them anywhere near my central heating. There can be very few situations where you can replace a boiler, power flush, fit TF1, limescale filter, correct sized gas pipe, fit TRVs as needed and a room stat etc to bring the heating system up to current regs and leave the system in a good condition for the new boiler in less than a couple of days. Most situations are more complicated than a straightforward swap. I would say that on average it costs my customers about £3200-3500 + vat for a new boiler to be fitted. I'm certainly not a millionaire either! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I fit Vaillants. If you get an installer who has signed up to their scheme, and done their course, you can get a 7 year warranty on the ecotec range. I find them much easier to work on than Worcesters if anything needs replacing and get very few problems with them. Like all boilers, the quality of the installation and commissioning makes a big difference to their longevity and trouble free operation. Likewise. I am also an installer and would fit a Vaillant every time given the choice. We are accredited Vaillant and Worcester installers and will happily fit both, BUT, given the choice... I would say that on average it costs my customers about £3200-3500 + vat for a new boiler to be fitted. I'm certainly not a millionaire either! Lol *Gulp*! £3500 for a boiler swap? Two days work? I suppose if you are getting it then why not, we wouldn't get too many at that price in Brighton though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLuke Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 . I would say that on average it costs my customers about £3200-3500 + vat for a new boiler to be fitted. I'm certainly not a millionaire either! Lol We don't charge that in London and nor do the competition! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 £3200 - £3500 plus VAT for a boiler swap ? Jeez now I know why the plumber my landlady uses lives in a 5 bedroom house and drives a new Jaguar XF !!! And our combi boiler wont cope with running a bath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Not for a boiler swap. That's the average price for fitting a new boiler. Usually involves repositioning, new gas, controls etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del T Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Not for a boiler swap. That's the average price for fitting a new boiler. Usually involves repositioning, new gas, controls etc. I'm glad someone else charges a decent price. We used to have in our local paper a firm that would do a boiler and 5 rads for £1500 ! The quality of work was shocking and they used the cheapest biasi boilers but some customers dont know the difference! When a Worcester 29cdi costs around 1100 inc vat the price of the job mounts up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 The world is full of shisters and people who won't pay to have a job done properly. They deserve each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potshot Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Thats the question no-one has asked - why fit a combination boiler if you are doing a whole new system they are **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLuke Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Thats the question no-one has asked - why fit a combination boiler if you are doing a whole new system they are **** Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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