Underdog Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Not much of a picture but after a walk for woodies on the wind with the Holloway I returned home to change guns. What did I choose....another shotgun, nope. A muzzleloader,nope. How about a rifle, nope. No I grabbed one of my favourite airrifles, a Hatsan Striker in .25! I got also a 2 yard sqizzer, another squizzer and a woodpigeon at about 7yds! All in the wind and rain. With the four woodies this morning thats 5 plus the duck....thats enough for them burgers my daughter is crowing about Underdog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brazzy Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Good shooting. What you thinking of the .25 Striker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted December 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Good shooting. What you thinking of the .25 Striker? For how much they are they are good but! Be prepared to hone/stone the trigger! Polish the cylinder and piston. Grease the spring a little. No piston weight in these for legal reasons so watch they don't go over! The barrel is good and it shoots pretty much any pellet. How ever don't go over twenty grainers by much! The RWS superdomes at 31grains are a little slow! Ok close up but...... The BSA Pylarms zip along, accurate and down woodies a treat. Milbro....won't bother again. H&N trophys and Bisley superfields are good. Under thirty yards is best but when it hits it does seem to whomp them some! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 What do you put in the burger mix? Think I'm gonna attempt it for the next geese I get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I've got a striker .25, use marksman No3, pylarm or H&N ftt's all around 18-20 grains. The milbro rhinos were awful.The strikers are designed to work at around 20ft lb so it seems that a really weak mainspring has been fitted to keep them down to 12ft lb. For the price they get a thumbs up from me, I've shot loads of crows, a few magpies and squirrels and a weasel with mine, plus other vermin. Not the best trigger, creeeeeep? Just a little,lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted December 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Weasel! That was good then. Well done. Burgers yeah. Done goose too. I just use a food processer and chop an onion in it. Add pepper. Maybe a little chili powder or whatever and then add the meat untill a paste. Spoon it onto parchment paper add paper on top and pat flat. Another is to do the same but put it in a oven proof dish. Add a little olive oil and bake. When cold this meatloaf slices easily and makes good butties. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 After checking up on this it's perfectly legal to shoot fowl with lead if it's a single projectile - it's only shotguns that are covered by that law. Also it's also perfectly legal to shoot fowl with a sub 12ftlb air rifle So lets not turn this into a witch hunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapid basher Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) Shooting duck with an air rifle is totally unsporting and then posting the picture up just self gratification.. nothing personal but I think your an idiot and anyone who agrees with you... Quote ....., lol a siting duck If it's going to eating then why not! Good shooting u Edited December 18, 2013 by rapid basher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) Shooting duck with an air rifle is totally unsporting I don't understand why you think shooting something should be a challenge? Surely the 'easier' it is, the more humane it is likely to be and therefore more ethical? As long as the shot is clean and the bird gets eaten then it doesn't matter. Saying it should be shot at x distance which a specific gun is pretty meaningless Edited December 18, 2013 by wildfowler.250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt1980 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 After checking up on this it's perfectly legal to shoot fowl with lead if it's a single projectile - it's only shotguns that are covered by that law. Also it's also perfectly legal to shoot fowl with a sub 12ftlb air rifle So lets not turn this into a witch hunt +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 After checking up on this it's perfectly legal to shoot fowl with lead if it's a single projectile - it's only shotguns that are covered by that law. Also it's also perfectly legal to shoot fowl with a sub 12ftlb air rifle So lets not turn this into a witch hunt Thats what stopped me posting you were checking up ! I was going to put this at the time. I see no problem with him shooting a duck to eat with a airgun , you are very mistaken if you think one would not kill a duck especially a .25 cal as underdog was using . I think people such as yourself regarding airguns as little more than pop guns plays a large part in the reason there are so many accidents and even deaths involving them , they are and will always be lethal . I do however agree that its pretty unsporting , hence the term sitting duck ,and I personally would not shoot one like that , but if its one for the pot why should sporting come into it. I would also agree that it perhaps does our sport no favors putting things like that on a open forum , we dont want every tom **** and harry that has a £20 smk thinking its fine to start knocking off the ducks on the village pond There are plenty of occasions where do but dont say is the right way ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosdesilva Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 sod the duck,i would have left the weasle,unless your sure it was giving you grief! a stoat deffinately!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapid basher Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I got shot with a 177 when I was 9 In the palm of the hand whent straight fru (It stung) agree thay are lethal in stupid hands And to many nutters have um Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted December 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Self gratified I am sure.....why.......because it was bloomin difficult thats why. First I had to keep concealed enough the duck did not fly off and then I had to be close enough to get a killing shot in. The sport in this is getting close to the quarry, far more escapes without me ever leveling the gun on them! Try it! I have shot enough duck in my lifetime with a shotgun (of which I assume would be agreable) to know that wounded duck are sometimes not retrieved so if the pot wants to call the kettle black go do it somewhere where they may care! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosdesilva Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 not doubting your marksman ship,well done on the duck !never failed with an air rifle on them myself ,you get close and choose your shot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Self gratified I am sure.....why.......because it was bloomin difficult thats why. First I had to keep concealed enough the duck did not fly off and then I had to be close enough to get a killing shot in. The sport in this is getting close to the quarry, far more escapes without me ever leveling the gun on them! Try it! I have shot enough duck in my lifetime with a shotgun (of which I assume would be agreable) to know that wounded duck are sometimes not retrieved so if the pot wants to call the kettle black go do it somewhere where they may care! U. Too right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) Why is shooting the duck unsporting but the 2 yard squirrel and 7 yard pigeon not? I think all species deserve the same respect (well, maybe not rats) and you can't do better than cleanly dispatching and eating your quarry. As for self gratification, yes it is, but surely that's what the 'Sporting pictures' section is for? Edit to say I am offended, but only by the Hatsan. Boy that thing is uuuuuuuugly. Edited December 19, 2013 by shaun4860 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 if its legal i suppose theres no problem realy,only i know why some folk don't agree as well, where i live i know young lads who have just past there driving tests up and down shooting ducks with there air rifles and thats how i have always looked at people who do that sort of thing, but i suppose done right and safe every one to there own,only theres no way i could do such a thing as ime in charge of a shoot and my mates would thing i had been smoking the green stuff all night, well ye good shooting pal and hope it tastes nice,atb simon.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted December 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Lets be clear on this....these are not village pond ducks! And I did not shoot from my lowered noisy saxo either! Just in case anyone is worried what the anti's think, instead of trying to appease them like Nev did Heir Hitler, tell them get stuffed, the miserable bunch of idiots! As long as I can go and buy mass produced meat from a store no one will stop me harvesting wild meats. Go moan yer bags off to your mp's. Get it all banned YOU WONT STOP ME! I will use a bow, catties, nets and snares. Let the anti's crimminalise me I dont care. The more you push the more underground it will go. Neville Chamberlin....seemed like such a nice man. I think he must of had a string of mistresses up and down the land myself! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonblasterian Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Good shooting and well done. You crack on doing what you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camokid Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 well shot u... don't take no notice of the un sporting gang its a pile of poo...you take the best tool for the job a decent pellet gun works wonders used properly.. i christened the new 22 last night on mr fox il post later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) My 2pence worth, Firstly Underdog, I personally enjoy your hunting reports and pics. and I fully support your position. It is refreshing to have input from a traditional hunter who gathers for the pot. The muzzle loaders, rifles and field craft you use to put food on the table clearly requires a level of skill that some don't possess. I struggle to understand the logic behind comments on using rifles as inhumane and un sporting. Assuming for a moment that a head shot was taken to a duck or pheasant at a reasonable range, it would, scale wise be similar to a golf ball sized bullet with enough mv to pass straight through a human head. What am I missing here? Unsporting? I think the definition of that on PW is, give the quarry a good chance of getting away first. This presumably means only taking shots that are 50-60-70% successful? To achieve this, surely you have to, shoot beyond your capabilities, at extreme ranges, using unsuitable ammunition or gun? To those that think rifles are inhumane and unsporting, next time you have to neck a pigeon, pheasant or duck, you look into its eye and decide if you thing you were sporting and humane. And don't get me started on kowtowing to the antis!!! Edited December 19, 2013 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) good shooting buddy,i find that those who say an air rifle is not up to the job are the same people that couldn't hit a wheely bin with one if they were sat in it Edited December 19, 2013 by pork chop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Keep up the good work underdog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Lets be clear on this....these are not village pond ducks! And I did not shoot from my lowered noisy saxo either! Just in case anyone is worried what the anti's think, instead of trying to appease them like Nev did Heir Hitler, tell them get stuffed, the miserable bunch of idiots! As long as I can go and buy mass produced meat from a store no one will stop me harvesting wild meats. Go moan yer bags off to your mp's. Get it all banned YOU WONT STOP ME! I will use a bow, catties, nets and snares. Let the anti's crimminalise me I dont care. The more you push the more underground it will go. Neville Chamberlin....seemed like such a nice man. I think he must of had a string of mistresses up and down the land myself! U. So you own a Saxo :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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