welsh1 Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 Well just listened to Her Majesty,and a lovely speech. I raise my glass," the Queen" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxon T Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 +1! A truly great lady! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 God save the our Queen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 I have got nothing against the old girl she dose a good job but I do think that it says a lot about this country that in 2013 we still have royals and have not moved on from needing kings and queens to rule over us enough said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini52 Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 I have got nothing against the old girl she dose a good job but I do think that it says a lot about this country that in 2013 we still have royals and have not moved on from needing kings and queens to rule over us enough said. Quite agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nial Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 I have got nothing against the old girl she dose a good job but I do think that it says a lot about this country that in 2013 we still have royals and have not moved on from needing kings and queens to rule over us enough said. Who said we _need_ the royals? And it's a long time since they "ruled over us" in any sort of meaningful way. But I agree it does say a lot about us that we still have them (in a good way IMHO). Nial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 She has done a much better job than all the elected leaders we have chosen over the years. God save the Queen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted December 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 I have got nothing against the old girl she dose a good job but I do think that it says a lot about this country that in 2013 we still have royals and have not moved on from needing kings and queens to rule over us enough said. And who would you have as head of this country? Tony Blair or how about our mate Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 And who would you have as head of this country? Tony Blair or how about our mate Dave. I gave up caring a few years ago when she read out a cringing politically correct message clearly written by the Labour Party who were in power at the time. She is just a powerless mouthpiece otherwise she would have done something to stop the hand over of power to Brussels as per her coronation oath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 never watch it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 Didn't watch it,but will never down the royals unless called for.We have to remember,they were born them,we were born peasants and we live our lives as history dictates. No matter what calls they make,they will always have their detractors,and a lot of them through jealousy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted December 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 I gave up caring a few years ago when she read out a cringing politically correct message clearly written by the Labour Party who were in power at the time. She is just a powerless mouthpiece otherwise she would have done something to stop the hand over of power to Brussels as per her coronation oath. The Queen has held little power since her ancestors signed it away and she will sign what is put in front of her as she has no choice. But she is head of the Armed forces,and as much as they are used by the politicians their allegiance is to the Queen,and as such there is no politician that can use them to force change in this country. Imagine if we had got rid of the Queen 20 years ago,what end would Mr blair have used HIS armed forces for,troops on the street to keep president blair in power,i shudder at the mere thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 The Queen has held little power since her ancestors signed it away and she will sign what is put in front of her as she has no choice. But she is head of the Armed forces,and as much as they are used by the politicians their allegiance is to the Queen,and as such there is no politician that can use them to force change in this country. Imagine if we had got rid of the Queen 20 years ago,what end would Mr blair have used HIS armed forces for,troops on the street to keep president blair in power,i shudder at the mere thought. The politicians will do what they please regardless of the Royal Family. The troops should have been sent in to remove Blair and co as they signed our country over but they weren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted December 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 Politicians will do what they want, but the armed forces will never turn on their own people,and if it was that bad and it was parliament against the Queen,the politicians know they are up the creek without a paddle. As for blair and co,blame the sheeple that voted them in time and again,we are after all a Democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 My problem is not so much with having a King/Queen but you then get all of the hangers on prince this and princes that as if that was not enough we then get in to the lords and ladies that the breeds the other lord and ladies that are appointed by the government. we are then expected to look up to them and call them sir or lady when all that most of them did was to do the job that they was well paid to do in the first place as fare as I am concerned I am English I was born here as was my parents and there parents I look up to people who can do things better than I can but I have nether need or use for a figurehead to look up to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako 243 Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 My problem is not so much with having a King/Queen but you then get all of the hangers on prince this and princes that as if that was not enough we then get in to the lords and ladies that the breeds the other lord and ladies that are appointed by the government. we are then expected to look up to them and call them sir or lady when all that most of them did was to do the job that they was well paid to do in the first place as fare as I am concerned I am English I was born here as was my parents and there parents I look up to people who can do things better than I can but I have nether need or use for a figurehead to look up to. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted December 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 My problem is not so much with having a King/Queen but you then get all of the hangers on prince this and princes that as if that was not enough we then get in to the lords and ladies that the breeds the other lord and ladies that are appointed by the government. we are then expected to look up to them and call them sir or lady when all that most of them did was to do the job that they was well paid to do in the first place as fare as I am concerned I am English I was born here as was my parents and there parents I look up to people who can do things better than I can but I have nether need or use for a figurehead to look up to. So what do you propose as an alternative? Look around the world, you have a couple of options good old dictatorship,always a crowd pleaser,or a presidency,this could be a corrupt one or a not so corrupt one where money literally buys you power(usa yea).all of these look on in envy at the system(bad or not) that we have,the usa desperately tries to create its own "royalty" in the form of the Kennedys or the bush families, they envy the way we do pomp and pageantry and try to emulate it at every opportunity but never with the same panache as we do it. The last time this country was a republic it was recognised that it was pretty dire and we decided to go back to what we have now. And lastly if you don't want to call anyone sir/madam/ladyship/squire/majesty etc you don't have to,you live in a democracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rimotu66 Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 Well just listened to Her Majesty,and a lovely speech. I raise my glass," the Queen" Quite right Sir , and anyone that disagree's,,,,,,, Channel ferries sail every day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntsman Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 she really is a caring lady but her grandkids are better move over your ladyship, and give charlie boy a chance to warm his a rs e on the throne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 she really is a caring lady but her grandkids are better move over your ladyship, and give charlie boy a chance to warm his a rs e on the throne As Head of the Church of England he wants to be defender of faiths rather than Defender of the Faith. How very multicultural of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 personally my favourite group of immigrants, good job they got in before UKIP did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTEMUP Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 Quite right Sir , and anyone that disagree's,,,,,,, Channel ferries sail every day X1 totally Agree God Save the Queen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) Will and Harry have my respect but an old lady with no grip on the real world who has never worked :( Seriously what does she do ? If I died tomorrow would she care? No so do I care about her ? No Sorry lads but she's not important to me Would she house me if I lost my job ? Nope Harry has my biggest respect for what he does tho To Add . When will rules I might listen to the speech then as it could be age related😎 And this is just my feelings I know not how others feel Edited December 25, 2013 by team tractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) I have got nothing against the old girl she dose a good job but I do think that it says a lot about this country that in 2013 we still have royals and have not moved on from needing kings and queens to rule over us enough said. They don't rule, they reign. The divine right of kings ended in the seventeenth century. The Monarch is the Head of State not the head of government. Pay attention at the back of the class. Edited December 25, 2013 by Gimlet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted December 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 Will and Harry have my respect but an old lady with no grip on the real world who has never worked :( Seriously what does she do ? If I died tomorrow would she care? No so do I care about her ? No Sorry lads but she's not important to me Would she house me if I lost my job ? Nope Harry has my biggest respect for what he does tho So harry and will are in the military and you respect them,have a look at phil the greeks medals,he fought in a war long past that not many seem to remember ww2,and the Queen was a land girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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