Dragon one Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 I have held my shotgun certificate for many years & early next year my licence comes up for renewal, my query is two years ago I was diagnosed with my doctor with social anxiety disorder & have been on one 80mg beta blocker a day as treatment ever since, do you think this will affect my chances in any way renewing my certificate ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdmb Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Its possible it will a lot would depend on your Doctors reply to the FEO when they ask about it. If your Doctor is happy with your treatment then your less likely to have problems from your firearms dept. It might be helpful to talk to your doctor before hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 If your in Durham, just 2 anadin and your ###. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Being a bit shy, which is what that sounds like, doesn't make you a potential mass murderer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 I was diagnosed with my doctor with social anxiety disorder What is a social anxiety disorder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmyman Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Welcome to the 'madhouse' Dragon one, To be honest I don't see the medication per se being the issue. I would imagine the reason behind such a prescription would have more relevance. I agree with sonicdmb and his advice. I have some personal experience of this medication and though the reasons behind my prescription were different to yours it was still an anxiety/stress related illness of sorts. So if you would like to discuss this further, feel free to PM me ATB remmyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parapilot Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 You have been fine for the last couple of years on them with sgc so may stand in your favor. But as said it will all come down to what your doctor says. I would go see him before renewal and explain what's going to happen so he's expecting it, and explain the consequence if its not worded correctly!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Just be honest in your dealings and you should be ok. It is the attempt to deceive which doesn't go down well, so inform your FEO when you apply and he will then contact your GP. Anxiety/stress disorders are rife in this day and age and are easily treatable. One point in your favour would be if your GP knows you are a shooter and doesn't feel the need to inform licensing. Whether this is the case or not I still wouldn't worry unduly. Your shooting organisation may also be able to advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Its noted this is your first post! Firearms will decide in conjunction with what the GP says, there is nothing wrong with the licencing system in this regards. Your GP will usually advice anyway with immediate effect if a risk to public safety was thought present. Probably best to ask those concerned with the decision rather than canvass random shooting folk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolhandMal Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Hi There I have been enjoying all types of country persuits since I were a 5 year old and holding FAC and SGL since 1978 but last year my doc Put me on Cipramil for what he called "anxiety attacks" so,I called my FEO for a chat and to ask him what he thought about the treatment and he immediately recommended I send my FAC and SGL back voluntarily asap!!but then when I finish my treatment I should apply for them again,my doc has recently reduced my dosage and says I should be ok to apply in the next 4-6 months he also stressed that Anxiety is not depression but the "Mental stigma"will always stick when anti-depressants are mentioned.I miss my hobby so much and now live in hope however,my son has his certificates and I tag along with him but it's not the same as I can only go when he has time off work...Will keep you posted as to what happens. ATB Mal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 I was on anti depressants when I only had my sgc but my feo knew and came out for a talk after an idiot I know rang them and said I was mentally unstable .( muppet) After the talk they said your fine so carry on plus renewed my cert a few months later. I wouldn't worry personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolhandMal Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 I was on anti depressants when I only had my sgc but my feo knew and came out for a talk after an idiot I know rang them and said I was mentally unstable .( muppet) After the talk they said your fine so carry on plus renewed my cert a few months later. I wouldn't worry personally...Thanks Mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Hi There I have been enjoying all types of country persuits since I were a 5 year old and holding FAC and SGL since 1978 but last year my doc Put me on Cipramil for what he called "anxiety attacks" so,I called my FEO for a chat and to ask him what he thought about the treatment and he immediately recommended I send my FAC and SGL back voluntarily asap!!but then when I finish my treatment I should apply for them again,my doc has recently reduced my dosage and says I should be ok to apply in the next 4-6 months he also stressed that Anxiety is not depression but the "Mental stigma"will always stick when anti-depressants are mentioned. As you'll know Cipramil is an anti depressant. I don't understand why your GP is treating you for depression if you only suffer from anxiety attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddman Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Citalopram (cipramil) is licensed in the UK for panic disorder which might be described as 'anxiety attacks' I can understand why a certificate holder is wary of an association with depression. However, depression and anxiety are two sides of the same coin in clinical practice and all of the SSRIs can be effective for anxiety (sometimes at higher doses than used for depression) Beta blockers are used to control the physical effects of 'nerves' eg rapid heart beat. and are very much a first level, primary care intervention. I can't see how someone with anxiety symptoms controlled with beta blockers and no other issues shouldn't be a fit and proper person All the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Can't understand why we are in this position. You are still allowed to drive your car w/o intervention and as we all know there will be a couple of thousand die on our roads this year and a few thou more seriously injured. My family are going through a very very stressfull time but because of the worry of what GP might say to plod I would have to be climbing the wall before I sought help. It is hugely counterproductive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Can't understand why we are in this position. You are still allowed to drive your car w/o intervention and as we all know there will be a couple of thousand die on our roads this year and a few thou more seriously injured. My family are going through a very very stressfull time but because of the worry of what GP might say to plod I would have to be climbing the wall before I sought help. It is hugely counterproductive. I too believe that the threat of possibly losing ones certificates if help is sought for stress/anxiety related problems is counter productive, as the thought of losing ones certificates exacerbates any stress or anxiety,but after a prolonged period of hyper activity, little sleep,and little food the effects are that the mind and body simply shut down and cease to function in any productive manner when it gets too bad to handle.Prior to this the sufferer is aware they need help, but this is put off until they are incapable of functioning normally and have no other option than to seek help. At this point getting well and a longing to be 'normal' again outweighs all other considerations. The knowledge that their certificates are not automatically at risk could possibly be an incentive for people to seek help earlier rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 I too believe that the threat of possibly losing ones certificates if help is sought for stress/anxiety related problems is counter productive, as the thought of losing ones certificates exacerbates any stress or anxiety,but after a prolonged period of hyper activity, little sleep,and little food the effects are that the mind and body simply shut down and cease to function in any productive manner when it gets too bad to handle.Prior to this the sufferer is aware they need help, but this is put off until they are incapable of functioning normally and have no other option than to seek help. At this point getting well and a longing to be 'normal' again outweighs all other considerations. The knowledge that their certificates are not automatically at risk could possibly be an incentive for people to seek help earlier rather than later. This was me around 3 years ago when my ex left with the kids. I cried all the time and lost 3stone from not eating. I refused help through fear of loosing my sgc but then I was marched to the docs by my parents :( but I'm great ever since . I believe I was more of a risk off them than on them. It's ridiculous . I waited 12 months after coming off them before going fac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Citalopram (cipramil) is licensed in the UK for panic disorder which might be described as 'anxiety attacks' I can understand why a certificate holder is wary of an association with depression. However, depression and anxiety are two sides of the same coin in clinical practice and all of the SSRIs can be effective for anxiety (sometimes at higher doses than used for depression) Beta blockers are used to control the physical effects of 'nerves' eg rapid heart beat. and are very much a first level, primary care intervention. I can't see how someone with anxiety symptoms controlled with beta blockers and no other issues shouldn't be a fit and proper person All the best My wife takes this for the very reason above and has done for many years with out it she is ok until crowds or going shopping, but you would never know. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 The OP hasn't been back from his initial post, hares hoping his question wasn't an anti gathering data then Note 1 post and a very unusual question to ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 The OP hasn't been back from his initial post, hares hoping his question wasn't an anti gathering data then Note 1 post and a very unusual question to ask A friend of miss bunnage perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz2202 Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 The OP hasn't been back from his initial post, hares hoping his question wasn't an anti gathering data then Note 1 post and a very unusual question to ask I think all pw members from now on need to look at the op before any of us respond. Looks like there are some strange ones out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmyman Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 I think all pw members from now on need to look at the op before any of us respond. Looks like there are some strange ones out there I have to say that I to thought it strange that the OP hasn't been in touch. Being a new member I would have imagined that he/she would be as keen as mustard. I feel slightly foolish for having made the offer that I did Live and learn I guess Regards remmyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 I think all pw members from now on need to look at the op before any of us respond. Looks like there are some strange ones out there Don't worry about it. If it was a genuine post he may have got some help; if it wasn't what has he learned? That many shooters are loonies? Is that news? Look out for a revelation from the Daily Mail soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon one Posted December 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) I have to say that I to thought it strange that the OP hasn't been in touch. Being a new member I would have imagined that he/she would be as keen as mustard. I feel slightly foolish for having made the offer that I did Live and learn I guess Regards remmyman Don't worry guys I am 100% genuine I give you my word & I am following this post carefully & taking on board all your advice carefully, I would like to thank you all for your advice to date. Edited December 29, 2013 by Dragon one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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