dcliff Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I might be able to purchase a little plot of land, with the sole intention of converting it onto a "micro shoot". Dig a pond, plant some trees / bushes / grasses. There's already a small established strip of woodland on it about 200 yards long. And a small river borders the other boundary. I'm guessing here but I think it's 10 - 15 acres. I'd also like to encourage other species of plants and animals Has anyone else done this sort of thing and had any success? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad93 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Should be adequate for your needs. Wild flowers and grasses are ideal for partridge, some cover crop, a pond next to the river, woods would be ideal for a small pheasant pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 What neighbours the land ? Allowing 300m for shot fall there will be few parts you can shoot from without worrying about fallout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcliff Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 What neighbours the land ? Allowing 300m for shot fall there will be few parts you can shoot from without worrying about fallout Other fields and woods. No problems with shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyNCC Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 If you don't mind me asking what would something like this be worth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Other fields and woods. No problems with shot. When I had some woodland I asked the owners of neighbouring land for shooting permission, so that I could walk their land and shoot inwards if necessary. This naturally covered me for any shot that came outwards too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double four Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) I might be able to purchase a little plot of land, with the sole intention of converting it onto a "micro shoot". Dig a pond, plant some trees / bushes / grasses. There's already a small established strip of woodland on it about 200 yards long. And a small river borders the other boundary. I'm guessing here but I think it's 10 - 15 acres. I'd also like to encourage other species of plants and animals Has anyone else done this sort of thing and had any success? Iv done it bud on not much more land than that, I have about 20 acre of woodland / ex arable land iv created a pond done some tree planting/ created rides and clearings in the wood. its taken me about three years but im reaping the benefits big time now. Had the best season ever on the pond, duck bags up ten fold on the previous two years plus I have a little walk round every so often always get a slack handful of pheasants along with the excellent woodcock flighting ( my favourite ) and the occasional deer I can honestly say its been the best investment I have ever made. If you go ahead don't hesitate to ask and if I can help I will , there are a lot of schemes and grants available from various organisations to assist you, DF Edited January 13, 2014 by Double four Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Other fields and woods. No problems with shot. I think the other chap is not warning you about people that might get hit, but if your shot lands on land that you do not have permission to shoot, you are causing an offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 You will not find a better mini sporting estate that Double Four's. I had a fantastic teal flight on one of his ponds back in October Dcliff, it sounds as if your prospective piece of land is ideal, woodland and water, a great combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double four Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 You will not find a better mini sporting estate that Double Four's. I had a fantastic teal flight on one of his ponds back in October Dcliff, it sounds as if your prospective piece of land is ideal, woodland and water, a great combination. Thank's Richard you were most welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brixsmaid Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 You could try this book - "Amateur Keeper: Handbook for the Small Shoot" by Archie Coats old but still good reference to read about what he did to make and run a 10 acre shoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcliff Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Thanks for the replies, guys... encouraging news from you all. And that book looks great. I've just ordered it online. It reminds me of a book I read once by Will Garfit, called "Will's Shoot". He bought a small wood years ago, chopped it up, dug some ponds and it became a very well respected little shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx3 clay breaker Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Must make sure there no sssi or English nature attached which there probly will be we've got it on the farm I work at 120 acres and you can barley touch a thing took years of begging and bargaining to clean the duck pond out which we can still only do a 1/3 of and a bloke I go shooting with neighbours on to it 14 acres and he's the same has a wet hole and sssi won't let him touch it with a digger to make a pond and they won't let us put a feeder on either parts of land hope this helps atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I think the other chap is not warning you about people that might get hit, but if your shot lands on land that you do not have permission to shoot, you are causing an offense. Can you please pull up the relevant section of the law on this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double four Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Can you please pull up the relevant section of the law on this ? There is a lot of truth in what the previous post says and sssi can be a nightmare to work with if you want to change things, I was in the running to buy a 30 acre piece that sits in a sssi in the end and after a meeting with Natural England I abandoned it in favour of the smaller piece I have now which still borders the nature reserve but is free from restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcliff Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Yeah, no worries with SSSI - when I said river I didn't mean the Derwent, which is covered in SSSI :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 There is a lot of truth in what the previous post says and sssi can be a nightmare to work with if you want to change things, I was in the running to buy a 30 acre piece that sits in a sssi in the end and after a meeting with Natural England I abandoned it in favour of the smaller piece I have now which still borders the nature reserve but is free from restrictions. I believe robbiep was referring to post 8 as quoted, not post 13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hunters Fen was only eight acres and look at what was shot off there. Good luck if you go ahead with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcliff Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hunters Fen was only eight acres and look at what was shot off there. Good luck if you go ahead with it. What is / was hunters fen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Can you please pull up the relevant section of the law on this ? Taken from the BASC website, while not the relevant section of law, it's good enough for me... ...only do so if you have permission to drop shot over the land on the other side. To fire a bullet or shot onto land that you have no right to shoot into or over is ‘constructive trespass’. Whilst this is a civil matter BASC strongly advises not to do this. Edited January 14, 2014 by -Mongrel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 What is / was hunters fen? owned by the late John Humphreys, often written about in Shooting times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brixsmaid Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hunters Fen was John Humphreys' (the late and great country sportsman) small patch of forgotten marsh. No more than eight acres, this became John’s “Hunter’s Fen”. It was his favourite spot on earth. He cherished every plant, reed, nest and splash. He created ponds which he fed to welcome a few mallard and on a windy evening in the winter, a special friend would be honoured with an invitation to this inner sanctum of John’s sporting temple. He created that special stage on which each of nature’s players performed until the curtain of darkness fell. In 1990 Hunter’s Fen was highly commended in the Laurent Perrier Awards. Read more at http://www.shootingtimes.co.uk/features/531816/Life_full_and_a_half.html#U0rGWaEtEWAlBOgJ.99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michufc Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Dcliff what you are planning sounds brilliant and defiantly something I would love to do in the future. As I have two you children I would not have the time or money to do it. Just out of interest how much would the land cost as if it was way to much I would come to terms with it as it will never happen Pm me if you don't want it on a open forum cheers mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Dcliff what you are planning sounds brilliant and defiantly something I would love to do in the future. As I have two you children I would not have the time or money to do it. Just out of interest how much would the land cost as if it was way to much I would come to terms with it as it will never happen Pm me if you don't want it on a open forum cheers mike Land prices vary hugely. You could buy woodland that has been cleared but must be replanted, that would be very cheap but the planting would cost you time and money. Land that is a SSSI, and has been felled, would be extremely cheap as you can't get any income from it, or do much with it, for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 On my first ever bought stalking day my guide told me his boss had bought the wood, 100 acres of trees, for only £50K. This was about ten years ago. It was ex Forestry Commission and they still owned all the timber until it was cropped. But it was absolutely lifting with deer!! Got both my first Fallow and Muntjac that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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