kingo15 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Am I right in thinking that a grade of a gun is the intricate detail on the gun, gold triggers etc and how expensive the wood is on the gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Yes , better wood and better engraving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
affinity121 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Always makes me laugh when you see someone with a really expensive gun (show off type) but can't hit anything to save his life - brings them back down to earth with a thud Fenboy is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I've never understood the fancy engraving on a modern day shotgun as there all done by machines and not by hand, but a nice grade of wood is always nice to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I like the engraving and highly figured wood, I don't like that the price is through the roof for the exact same mechanics. If the attention to detail was on the inside aswell I could understand it commanding such a premium as it would handle and shoot better. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Not ALL engraving is machine done. When I worked for Browning there was a lot of hand fitting and hand engraving on the top grade guns... The ASPREY High Power was a work of art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Thx for the replies, satisfied me enough to purchase a grade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I've heard that the better grade of wood the recoli of the gun is different or is it a load of bull **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I've heard that the better grade of wood the recoli of the gun is different or is it a load of bull **** There is a small element of truth in your question. Better grades of fine grained walnut can be very dense, so are heavier, which in turn can reduce the perceived recoil. I doubt very much that the majority of shooters would be able to tell the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Fancier grained the wood the weaker it is, best for strength is a straight grained plain stock. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g fletch Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Grade 1 what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Always makes me laugh when you see someone with a really expensive gun (show off type) but can't hit anything to save his life - brings them back down to earth with a thud Fenboy is correct. Plenty of people at my gun club who are poor shots but just enjoy the company and the fun of shooting If you have the spare cash, why not buy something you really like the look of even if it does not help improve your scores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicblue Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I only got into the shooting thing 6 or so years ago and now in my mid-fifties. I've come to appreciate the pleasure associated with using a beautifully made gun with a lovely piece of wood; for me it's a combination of the exquisite quality engineering combined with the craftsmanship of something that you know has been lovingly made. My coach did say once that there is pleasure to be had from getting a lovely gun out of the cabinet and placing in the slip to go shooting, the plain-Jane guns just don't have the same tactile feeling. Whilst I can appreciate the effort the goes into hand-engraved guns that really blur the line between functional tool and being a piece of art that's primary purpose is to be admired I have absolutely no desire to own such things. I've recently bought Karl C Lippard's trade publication on Perazzi shotguns (imported from the US - Ebay and personally autographed too for very little money) that depicts some of the very rare and unbelievably ornate guns that have been manufactured. There are/were master engravers who are really elite artists at the top of their game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I'm not so keen on heavily engraved guns http://www.hollowaynaughton.co.uk/hollowayandnaughtonengraving.php but no denying the skill and artistry involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neillfrbs Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 if you want cheap nice wood and engraving ,get a bettinsoli good value gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I must admit that I would never buy one of the modern guns that have just a number, word or a couple of squiggles on the block. I like to see at least a small amount of decoration be it engraving or the cheaper lazer cut designs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I'm of the opinion, if you work hard to earn you're money ... spend as you see fit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lees Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I must admit that I would never buy one of the modern guns that have just a number, word or a couple of squiggles on the block. I like to see at least a small amount of decoration be it engraving or the cheaper lazer cut designs +1 I think it's Beretta who do a (not cheap) gun with no engraving, it's just not complete in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I'm not so keen on heavily engraved guns http://www.hollowaynaughton.co.uk/hollowayandnaughtonengraving.php but no denying the skill and artistry involved. wow those are amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Always makes me laugh when you see someone with a really expensive gun (show off type) but can't hit anything to save his life - brings them back down to earth with a thud Fenboy is correct. Do you have a cheap gun by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
affinity121 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Do you have a cheap gun by any chance? Browning 725 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Browning 725 Fair enough!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I like to see a nice piece of wood and a nice game scene engraving. its true that some higher grades are just down to wood and engraving but not all some of the higher grades are actually hand finished so there is quite a lot of difference,i had a beretta ase that was largely hand built in the so factoryand you could easily tell the difference between that and a standard ase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev56 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Love the work on the older 'Best English' especially Boss and co. not to keen on the heavy work and gold touches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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