Mungler Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Have you hounded any paediatricians out of the neighbourhood recently? I can't say I approve but I do admire your honesty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I can't say I approve but I do admire your honesty Did you like what I did there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 There are various severities of Aspergers! Also ALL sufferers are not the same in behaviour! My Son has Aspergers! He can be very blunt and to the point, which gets him into trouble! The school wanted to wrap him in cotton wool and treat him different to everyone else! I was not happy with the idea, as it alienates him in one respect! Also I didn't like the idea of Him getting let off for his behaviour as he knows tue difference between right and wrong! I find a LOT of behaviour problems are caused by carers or outside influences, allowing Autistic people to get away with bad behaviour, using their problem as an excuse! In most of the cases, they would be better off being treated equally. You need to have a word with the people who care for this chap! We have a lad at work who is Autistic and is quite adept at slinking off to a hidey hole for an hour or so! His carers were called into the office for a word! They then spent a few weeks watching over him to keep him motivated! This worked for the time they were present! The moment they left He returned to his more lazy self! You MAY have some luck in talking to his carers! I hope you manage to get it sorted, it would be a shame for him to lose his job! A lot of people with Aspergers are treated as idiots, when infact they can be very intelligent, and dedicated workers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) Did you like what I did there? I got it, a good 60% won't and will be reaching for the matches and pitchforks Edited February 23, 2014 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Did you like what I did there? personally I think there is no Logic or sense in this statement , for the subject we are debating on but if it makes you feel better it's a case of whatever floats your boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 personally I think there is no Logic or sense in this statement , for the subject we are debating on but if it makes you feel better it's a case of whatever floats your boat. QED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 QED Indeed. I started typing a reply but I'd have been wasting my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 quod erat demonstrandum for those that don't understand Up early nt nt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) Friends of ours have a child that has Asperger's - it's like every ounce of personality and humanity was sucked out at birth. I feel sorry for the kid because he has no friends at school and will never know or understand friendship, love or any human emotion. I feel very sorry for the parents because their child will never show them any love or affection. He should apply to Pigeonwatch as a moderator. Edited February 23, 2014 by Bleeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Now I am proper chuckling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 This sort of greedy larceny has taken place in every place I've worked - sometimes it wasn't even me. It sounds like a mountain out of a mole hill, so relax and give some empathy to someone who's lacking it through genes, rather than through choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 He should apply to Pigeonwatch as a moderator. That reminds me, how are you getting on with that muzzle loader these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Think of waking up tomorrow having lost all of your social interaction experience. You no longer understand personal space, people's feelings, how to act in certain situations, sensitivities etc. You are emotionally blind, deaf and dumb. Throw into the mix a complete inability to logically and rationally decipher even the most innocent of situations and you now have mild Aspergers traits. Everyone I've met with Aspergers (before my niece's diagnosis and my subsequent education) came across as incredibly rude, completely self centred and to be brutally honest, unlikeable. At face value they are odd, cold and frustrating. **** me. That must mean that most people working on trading floors suffer from Aspergers? What you describe above is a prerequisite for the job. Perhaps we'll start seeing some sympathy for Bankers now. Clearly they have a mental illness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I can't believe the attitude to mental disability expressed on this forum. I hope you don't have to experience the problems people like Munzy's niece take on a daily basis. This guy has been difficult to live with by his workmates and it's been a misjudged placement but some of your comments are little short of disgraceful i suspect a large majority do but just don't know they have it, ignorance is bliss and all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 That reminds me, how are you getting on with that muzzle loader these days? The good news is I don't have to pay to get my 6th finger removed anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pegasus bridge Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Bit harsh if the lad really doesn't know it's wrong, but a quick wipe of any food with an uncooked chicken breast should sort it 😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Stick a bottle of Daves Insanity Sauce in the fridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 wipe your backside on the bread and tell him it's marmite day The problem with that one is he may like the taste of it what would you do then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 The lad might not have it in him to know he's doing wrong, on the other hand he maybe using his condition as an excuse( my parents fostered a autistic lad with aspergers who was wiser than he'd have you believe). The simple thing would be to keep your food else where or demand a lock for the fridge. To even consider lacing the food is wrong on a lot of levels in this case, if it was someone with no mental issues I'd say game on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 There is more to this subject I hear people talking on the radio ( experts ) and they are saying that more and more people are being diagnosed with these problems in the milder scale of things and one has to think where do you stop with it in the end practically everyone will have some form of illness diagnosed be it real or not but looking on the bright side if it is pc for a black people to call each other nigers if we are all ill we can call each other whatever we like and the powers that be cannot stop us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Some very very disappointing comments coming up in this one , I know some of them are jokes , but some of them are just down right wrong and I feel bad for people who have to put up with idiots like this daily. I honestly though people were better than this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) Like Lord Geordie I also have a son with Aspergers, he's coming up on 24 and was only diagnosed at age 15 after years of being abused at school and with no help from the staff who just said he was a lazy little *** and we should put him on Ritalin!. If you met him you'd think twice about saying a lot of things that have been said to his face, like me he's well over 6 feet tall and of a good build, the thing is that unlike me he wouldn't retaliate in any way, he'd be upset but would just turn around and walk away which, unfortunately, is taken by some bullies to be a form of weakness or cowardice. He's been bullied verbally and physically since he was in the juniors, even at college he was assaulted several times and even came home 15 miles on the bus with blood still coming out of the back of his head where they had thrown a rock at him as he walked away. When he gets to know someone he's a very nice well mannered young man, unfortunately his understanding of social etiquette, emotional signals/triggers and body language is very limited so he comes across as stand-offish or looks like he's deliberately being ignorant and not understanding you. It's taken a long time to get him where he is now, he's been shooting for almost 8 years, he's joined 4 different clubs, clay pigeon, full bore rifle etc. and has passed every induction test including our local club who go by the NRA guide and stick to it unlike some other clubs. He's had his safe shooters card for three years and is a decent shot. Shooting seems to be one aspect of his life where it works for him, on the other hand ask him to choose what he wants to eat and you could be waiting a very long time to get a decision out of him. Aspergers is part of what's known as the ASD group of conditions (Autistic Spectrum Disorder) the clue being in the word Spectrum as very few ASD sufferers are identical, they have a lot of the same basic traits but especially with Aspergers there are many forms and levels of affectation. I sincerely hope none of those passing the worst comments ever have someone in their lives that is affected by an ASD condition, there is no cure and very little in the way of basic help. To know that no matter how much you love them and try to help them they will always be that way and there is nothing you can do but stand and watch is a horrible thing to have to live with. Edited February 24, 2014 by phaedra1106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liamey Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Like Lord Geordie I also have a son with Aspergers, he's coming up on 24 and was only diagnosed at age 15 after years of being abused at school and with no help from the staff who just said he was a lazy little *** and we should put him on Ritalin!. If you met him you'd think twice about saying a lot of things that have been said to his face, like me he's well over 6 feet tall and of a good build, the thing is that unlike me he wouldn't retaliate in any way, he'd be upset but would just turn around and walk away which, unfortunately, is taken by some bullies to be a form of weakness or cowardice. He's been bullied verbally and physically since he was in the juniors, even at college he was assaulted several times and even came home 15 miles on the bus with blood still coming out of the back of his head where they had thrown a rock at him as he walked away. When he gets to know someone he's a very nice well mannered young man, unfortunately his understanding of social etiquette, emotional signals/triggers and body language is very limited so he comes across as stand-offish or looks like he's deliberately being ignorant and not understanding you. It's taken a long time to get him where he is now, he's been shooting for almost 8 years, he's joined 4 different clubs, clay pigeon, full bore rifle etc. and has passed every induction test including our local club who go by the NRA guide and stick to it unlike some other clubs. He's had his safe shooters card for three years and is a decent shot. Shooting seems to be one aspect of his life where it works for him, on the other hand ask him to choose what he wants to eat and you could be waiting a very long time to get a decision out of him. Aspergers is part of what's known as the ASD group of conditions (Autistic Spectrum Disorder) the clue being in the word Spectrum as very few ASD sufferers are identical, they have a lot of the same basic traits but especially with Aspergers there are many forms and levels of affectation. I sincerely hope none of those passing the worst comments ever have someone in their lives that is affected by an ASD condition, there is no cure and very little in the way of basic help. To know that no matter how much you love them and try to help them they will always be that way and there is nothing you can do but stand and watch is a horrible thing to have to live with. +1 I do not know anyone on the ASD but as your post points out at the end of the day the person in question pertaining to the OP is someone's son, someone's child and perhaps sibling. Let's try and show some understanding and compassion as I am sure everyone would be very upset if it were their child being discussed in this manner. Having management speak with the support worker sounds like a good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 first of all, get a "cashbox as a lunch box." - irritating? yep, but it stops the food getting eaten, the box could still be knicked, but it only contains sarnies. forget poisoning and that. one place i worked, there were multiple instances of people intentionally poisoning people. not due to thefts or anything. just because the staff were weirdos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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