Matt Gould Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 Does anyone know if eley subs are back up to scratch as i would like to go back to them i only changed as people said the quality whent down hill ?? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 I quite liked Eley until they got covered in muck, appeared to be oversize and live rounds kept jamming in the chamber - not clever in the dark. Changed to SK which were even better in my rifle and so have no intention of going back to Eley. Worth trying a box if you've not already done so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 The ones I'm using at the moment are quiet and accurate but down on power, just over 900fps. It's just the trajectory that goes against them for me. For that reason, when I've run out, I'll be back on the SK's. I've found them to be superb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beanieboy Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 I'm using RWS and find them very accurate but they don't seem to hit as hard as Eley - I stopped using Eley as they felt very tight to 'bolt in'. Might try the SK's if I can get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) I'm using RWS and find them very accurate but they don't seem to hit as hard as Eley - I stopped using Eley as they felt very tight to 'bolt in'. Might try the SK's if I can get them. Precisely the same for me. I switched to RWS about a year ago. Likewise i'll try some Lapua SK out of interest if I can find a local supplier. Edited March 21, 2014 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestbry Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 I bought a slab about 2 months ago, no problem with them in my 10/22. Not a single jam /missfire, but i did give my mags a good dissemble and clean. 35 rabbits from 4 mags cant be bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottoj18 Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 Iv been putting fiocchi hp 40g through my cz and am really happy. Less than 1" 5 shot groups at 60yards, 2" drop at 100. Next to no flyers and at only £4.50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 Iv been putting fiocchi hp 40g through my cz and am really happy. Less than 1" 5 shot groups at 60yards, 2" drop at 100. Next to no flyers and at only £4.50. I tested some of the Fiocchi HP's in this video. My results were just the same, about an inch at 65 yards. I used Eley HP's for many years but have now switched to RWS HP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 Iv been putting fiocchi hp 40g through my cz and am really happy. Less than 1" 5 shot groups at 60yards, 2" drop at 100. Next to no flyers and at only £4.50. what range is your lr zeroed at to get a 2" drop at 100 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottoj18 Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) 60yards Edit that 2 Mil dots at 100, so about 3" Edited March 21, 2014 by Scottoj18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 60yards Edit that 2 Mil dots at 100, so about 3" mate a 40 grain sub sonic round zeroed at 75 yards will drop about 4.3" colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) mate a 40 grain sub sonic round zeroed at 75 yards will drop about 4.3" colin I'm not the only one puzzled then Colin Mines zero'd 50 yards with winnies, and that's 5 3/4" drop at 100. Eleys, within a whisker, the same....tighter groups, but uncomfortabley tight to close the bolt on, so I stick with Winnies Edited March 21, 2014 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 my 452 is zeroed at 50yds, with winnie subs i get just over 6 inch drop at 100yds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 We have heavy gravity in this neck of the woods too. With the variable velocity of the Eley subs over the last year or so, any where between 6-8 inches is about normal. Although the RWS only show around 1000 fps through the Chrony, I find them more consistent than the current Eley's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 RWS do drop more than most but remain accurate indeed they are a match for my favoured sk subs in this regards. 50 yards zero gives 6" drop with faster subs and 8" with slower ones as a generalisation fired at 850 ft ASL. This isn't from computer but from a lot of testing and practice. I haven't bought Eley subs for years but a mate brought a brick up and I tested them out to 150 yards or so, they held great accuracy and the drop was within the realms of a high quality faster sub. though never put them over the chronograph and didn't side by side test on the day (the true way of finding if its better ammo). He has no complaints about how they kill rabbits though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 Lost will depend on specific ammo and barrel, scope height, and of course how accurate the distance measurements are..etc etc etc. My 452 with a 60 yard zero drops as close to 4" as doesn't matter to 100yards with Magtech subs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) I don't use eley anymore, they use to be fantastic but aren't great now. I just use cci standard target ammo which group 1/2"@55yrds and I have recently been given 200x Remington thunderbolts which are grouping 1/2"-3/4" and 1.75" high @55yrds when zeroed for the cci so can't grumble. Not tried either at 100yrds yet though. Edited March 23, 2014 by bicykillgaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickB65 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Is it me or are all the LAPUE products round nosed and not hollow point? Just been on there website and all of the Rimfire round I can see are round nosed and not hollow points..... they all seem to be the same ballistics as well i.e. 1073 and 40 grain. Must admit I am happy with the Winchester sub-hp but always interested in testing other rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) Is it me or are all the LAPUE products round nosed and not hollow point? Just been on there website and all of the Rimfire round I can see are round nosed and not hollow points..... they all seem to be the same ballistics as well i.e. 1073 and 40 grain. Must admit I am happy with the Winchester sub-hp but always interested in testing other rounds. Have a look for SK - I think you'll find that they are part of Lapua but am not 100% certain without double checking. Suffice to say they do the hollow points. Edit: Checked and found correct. Edited March 27, 2014 by wymberley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadioles Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 I use (Lapua) SK Subs in my CZ452, they are 40gr hollow point. Typical chronograph readings are in the range 1040 to 1057. My zero is 55 yards as that gives me the flattest shooting with the second zero falling at 20 yards. In effect I am shooting fairly flat from 15 yards to 60 yards, about half inch low at 15 yards, half inch high at 40 yards and half inch low again at 60 yards. The drop at 100 yards is six inches. Accuracy and consistency is excellent. Never a duff bullet, fliers are usually my own incompetence. Half inch or better groups at 60 yards, opens up to a little better than one inch groups at 80 yards and about one and a quarter inches at 100 yards. Dare I mention..... clean barrel, only one "conditioning" shot required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 SK's are very accurate and consistent hollowpoint bullets in my anschutz. The eleys that I've had recently have been down on power but still accurate and consistent. Really impressed with the SK's though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Is it me or are all the LAPUE products round nosed and not hollow point? Just been on there website and all of the Rimfire round I can see are round nosed and not hollow points..... they all seem to be the same ballistics as well i.e. 1073 and 40 grain. Must admit I am happy with the Winchester sub-hp but always interested in testing other rounds. Manufacture shifted to Germany of the Lapua subsonic hollow point ( six years ago at a guess?) Now sold as SK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickB65 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 All being well and if the weather does what it is supposed to then I may even get an evenings shooting on Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodlander Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 I tried using Fiocchi in my 452. 3 out of a 10 shot mag went supersonic. Shot clean over the 18" square lump of wood I had my target pinned to. Lucky I was shooting in 1000 acres of nothing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 If the target was in the middle of an 18" target then you was more the 9" high to go over the top and difference between sub sonic and the rounds going supersonic won't amount that that much difference my lr is zeroed at 50 yards with subs and when i use hv rounds it's shooting about an i ch and half l high so if your missing the wood i would say there is something wrong there Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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