955i Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Anyone watch this? What are your views? Thought the caiman deserved a bit more respect but in general those guys are ******* useless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
affinity121 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Anyone watch this? What are your views? Thought the caiman deserved a bit more respect but in general those guys are ******* useless Yes just finished watching the 2nd episode on 4od. The 21 year old is the worst of the bunch... A right useless wuss. Appears people lose it with him in the next episode. I can see people complaining about them killing stuff. There is definitely worse stuff to watch on TV than this so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Yeah caught the last 30 mins. Not sure what they could of done differently apart from kill it straight away. But yes they are pretty unique haha. Series linked now. Next week looks like some fireworks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glb8686 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Said to my Mrs they should have killed it straight away, while adrenaline was high so would have been easier. I don't think they had a knife on them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 At least they managed to gather the balls to catch it and got some food in the end. There will be complaints though without doubt. My impressions are that they are very poorly organised, whilst the guys were trying to make fire everyone else could have been busy combing the beach, making shelters or gathering wood / finding water. It seems to take them days to get around to much of anything. Mind you, it's a great deal easier when your sitting on a comfortable sofa, warm and well fed. Stockport lad is a right royal plonker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) I'm loving this programme. I agree with all the comments so far, they are a disorganised bunch of girls BUT I actually think they represent an average group of men on an island! I imagine they will slowly get a bit more organised as they learn how the island works and sort out a bit of a hierarchy. I found it really interesting how two of the lads cried after killing the cayman but I guess Bear summed it up when he said that most people simply don't appreciate where food comes from. Even if you know a packet of beef comes from a cow that's different from putting a knife in the back of it's head and watching it breathe it's last. The only thing I can fault them for is not killing the poor thing as soon as they were back at the camp. As Mick said it's a lot easier watching it from a comfy sofa but I would love to give the experience a go! Edited May 13, 2014 by Munzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
affinity121 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Anyone else think the Stockport guy sounds and acts like Karl Pilkington ? ... Thick and annoying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Thing is, I don't think they really do represent an average group of men. These are men who wanted to go to the island. They must all be wannabe Bear Grylls or they wouldn't be there. Then they spend the entire time saying how hungry they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Thing is, I don't think they really do represent an average group of men. These are men who wanted to go to the island. They must all be wannabe Bear Grylls or they wouldn't be there. Then they spend the entire time saying how hungry they are. They all wanted to go and live on a tropical island for a few months... that doesn't translate to them being Bear Grylls idols. Ask 1000 people if they want to spend two months on a tropical beach and you wouldn't get many people saying no! A very small number will be survivalists though. It's clear from how they layabout instead of foraging, exploring and hunting that they don't watch a lot of Ray Mears! I think they are (sadly) pretty average blokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I dont think many would survive a true situation, far too much talking and whinging, and not enough doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 They all wanted to go and live on a tropical island for a few months... that doesn't translate to them being Bear Grylls idols. Ask 1000 people if they want to spend two months on a tropical beach and you wouldn't get many people saying no! A very small number will be survivalists though. It's clear from how they layabout instead of foraging, exploring and hunting that they don't watch a lot of Ray Mears! I think they are (sadly) pretty average blokes. I see what you're saying, but a tropical island with waitress service on the beach is appealing, but a tropical island where you have to find your own food, water and shelter surely would only appeal to people who thought they might have a chance of doing it. Seems the reality of it was a bit of an eye-opener for most of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamskiseal Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I wonder how they charge the cameras up? 😐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I liked the comment last week from the guy who said. If he thought it would have been like this he would not have signed up for it. What did he think it would be like I'm a Celeb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Seems the reality of it was a bit of an eye-opener for most of them. For sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIDES EDGE Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 The Cayman was suspect the end of its snout was damaged and what was it doing out in the open and did not dash off when they approached , they spent 12 hours rubbing sticks together when one of them was wearing glasses which they could have used to magnifie the strong sunlight into burning dry tinder quicker, not a single bow and arrow has been made and dont they realise those pelicans are eating fish right on the edge of the beach, would like to think we PW members would far better at it and no tears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I wonder how they charge the cameras up? A good question, but one which brings up something many people in the industry spotted within thirty seconds of episode one... The man who got the fire started eventually in Ep 1 is Dan Etheridge, a professional camera operator I've worked with many times who is also Bear Grylls cameraman for his born survivor series, he has seen Bear light fires like that a million times and has been fully trained in survival techniques on the various hostile working courses that are mandatory in the industry for those kind of jobs. I know better than anyone that telly lies but I think that is a particularly dubious modus as I'm fine accepting there is a crew filming other shows but hiding the crew amongst the contestants is a bit naughty. He is capable of a lot but I think is keeping it on the downlow to give the others a chance to do something. Regards batteries - one of the beaches is off limits from dawn to midday so the production crew can come and collect the rushes (raw footage) and deliver new batteries, after midday the islanders go and collect new batteries and memory cards for the cameras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I think a lot of people see stuff on the telly or internet and reckon they could do it no problem. Sign up to a show like this and reality strikes big time. The same thing happens with DIY, cooking, car restoration, etc. The TV makes it look so easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 The greatest use that Ryan from Stockport could be is as food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Also don't forget many of these events happen simultaneously so it might look like nobody else is doing anything but as an example yesterday when they returned with the Caiman there was clearly one team on water duty and the other team fishing, the perils of editing stories this way is it looks like they are not as organised as they probably are - it's a proper liars medium is television. I don't know for sure but with things like using eyeglasses to light the fire I suspect they were told they weren't allowed as although they need their glasses to see they are not be used for 'survival' because you could also use the lens of the camera, or the camera battery to start a fire really easily but it doesn't make good telly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Also don't forget many of these events happen simultaneously so it might look like nobody else is doing anything but as an example yesterday when they returned with the Caiman there was clearly one team on water duty and the other team fishing, the perils of editing stories this way is it looks like they are not as organised as they probably are - it's a proper liars medium is television. I don't know for sure but with things like using eyeglasses to light the fire I suspect they were told they weren't allowed as although they need their glasses to see they are not be used for 'survival' because you could also use the lens of the camera, or the camera battery to start a fire really easily but it doesn't make good telly I agree it's all edited for good TV, would love to have a shot at it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 there's talk of another series with an island of women to see how they fare, I'd be interested to see how that pans out and if it descends into cat fighting and cliques more than the men - ideally two islands running at the same time to see how both groups approach the same problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 It seems cruel on the crock but it stayed fresh while they sorted their stuff out (something to remember in the heat). Killing is a big thing to those who have never done it and they even needed to discuss who might do it. My girls cracked up laughing when they sighted the python on the walk in episode 1 when I blurted out "cut its head off -its food". It seemed the canditates thought there might be a McDonalds someplace they might find in the morning after their evening swim. At the end of the day its TV and they needed people who will be out of place and do daft things, sensationalist stuff from a presenter who specialises in such things. Funny though! Its not so easy catching and killing stuff when you haven't got a gun and ammo or the latest fishing gear and traps, electronic calls etc. though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 As a side issue, has anyone seen Ed Stafford - Naked and Marooned? Seems an interesting series this time around with 10 days in each location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 As a side issue, has anyone seen Ed Stafford - Naked and Marooned? Seems an interesting series this time around with 10 days in each location. I loved alone in the wild with Ed Wardle, he was supposed to spend I think a month in Canada but they had to pull him out as he started cracking up - if a guy who's been up Everest and loads of other expeditions can't hack it I don't fancy the chances of some of the keyboard survivalists on here who know exactly what they'd do in these situations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I dont think many would survive a true situation, far too much talking and whinging, and not enough doing. Sadly the vast majority of people won't/don't studies that have been done by the military show a depressingly high percentage of failures in survival situations.. particularly when alone The killer (apart from the obvious immediate danger of dehydration) is mindset... the first thing you are trained to do is set up a routine... water collection, fuel gathering, foraging etc.. that delays or hopefully removes the feeling of hopelessness.. if that sets in, coupled with dehydration and lack of food then you are basically dead... you just sit back and give up! We shouldn't criticise them overly, they probably represent how 90% of the poulation would be... its all too easy to sit here and shout at the TV and criticise etc.. but at the end of the day, without decent training, some knowledge/skills and a very positive mindset very few of us would do any better/different and then... throw group dynamics into the melting pot and anything could happen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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