Thunderbird Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 ...some people who argue with each other on here would probably get on like a house on fire in the real world. I've often wondered about that too. I was recently told of two members who didn't (the fault/resentment of one, not the other, and the 'one' hasn't been seen here for years now.) I've met loads of people from PW and I've liked all of them without exception. Well, apart from Malk but nobody likes him, mostly because he snores, trips over things whilst sober, and loses his trousers on a regular basis.. Pure 'trolling' for the sake of it wouldn't be tolerated here by the mods, I think. The majority of the (non-wind up) PW threads which have become truly legendary are generally due to the OP (or others) repeatedly digging their own graves with their keyboards and asking for it. However there are some subjects on which people will never agree, for example the shot size required to shoot decoyed pigeons, or UKIP; to pick two examples entirely at random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) I have to say, 99% of people on here are friendly, fun to talk to, knowledgeable and happy to part with their experiences to help those of us novices and inexperienced, aswell as those a little more seasoned but looking to hone their all round ability in this great sport!! But after reading several threads "dilema" I've had a thread ambushed "Help Needed", poor guy decoratuing a gun cabinet (ok, he sort of asked for it when he had a bag of weed in the picture) and several other threads I notice there are a few "trolls" on here that rather than help, lavish in lambasting, degrading, patronising and being sanctomoious to those honest and secure enough to ask for help, without offering any practical or viable answers...... WHY??? Do you feel the need to do this?? This is a great site, and I for one have learnt so much from it and will continue to do so. Surely that's the point of these forums? Are you trying to drive people from this site, or are you trying to get people to stop asking and just go about their business incorreclty to the point they hurt or god forbid kill someone!! If we all knew everything it would be a dull world!! If you want to troll, go watch Jeremy Kyle...... I too have given people stick on here but do not consider myself a troll if you ask dum questions expect dum answers .Not enough people do there home work before asking silly things on the forum. It's much easier to search for an answer than ask on the forum for help.un fortunately people fall in to different categories some are genuine some are Jonny Rambo's it's not too hard to establish who is who . I am here to help anyone with genuine problems and advise if any one needs to learn about reloading ,shot making ,general shooting ,trapping ,foxing ,deer shooting, but please go the right way about it .Over the years I have had 20 plus people learn how to reload by using my equipment Most seasoned shooters sit back don't say much and would never publish a list of guns in our signature why do we use a user name this is just to protect our identity by publishing a list of what we own as soon as some one finds out where you live they know exactly what you own .i have no problem talking about what I have in posts on an individual matter that's different . I think that you have not seen the positive side of this forum and have only been interested in the bad things . Please use the forum and gain more experience you have a very small post count and have only been a member less than 12 weeks as said before there are thousands of members who can reply. I have held firearms and shotgun certificates for over 25 years ,never did I ask any silly questions I did all the research without the internet and learnt what was required I also didn't try to run before I could walk ,to day people post I have seen a deer on my permission I need a .308 when really they need to find some one to take them out deer shooting and train them what's required then gain the permission to shoot deer on that land. Again stupid questions get stupid answers . Also please remember there is always the option of not logging on if you don't like what you see Please don't take this as a negative carry on with the shooting you will enjoy the registered events even more than club shooting I am shure Happy shooting Deershooter Edited May 20, 2014 by deershooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttfjlc Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 We all know deershooter we only have to mention "cheap" cartridges and that's enough to set you off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I heard some sound advice many years ago. Cbill out - chew the cud - spit out the sticks and enjoy the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Did that cabinet ever finish getting decorated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Res Ipsa Loquita!! Is that used in the context that you are admitting to trolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Agree its the same ones everytime, to be honest i dont think they actually shoot as if you check their times they are always on.There was one thread peticular thread that went on for days, where they were realy slagging each other off.When i checked at 8am before going out shooting they where at it again and when i got back at 5.30 they where still at it.They really get nasty and personal(a bit worrying if they supposidly hold FAC/SGC cert's)Its a shame when someone askes for advise that the tread gets diverted when a slagging match kicks off and the poster doesnt get any advise. I remember that it was great fun.smart phones rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) I always ask for "constructive advice". Works most of the time, but you do get the odd thick one who doesn't understand what that means Try using the "Ignore" list, works a treat. But now and again I can't help looking at a few of the usual's, just for the grin factor! This site does seem to have a large number of sad trolls, but as has been pointed out already, the more members, the more trolls. I prefer UK Varminting, seems to have less sad trolls. Probably due to less members, but so be it.... Edited May 20, 2014 by jam1e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) You might consider this trolling, if you are going to accuse some of trolling lets see some examples of the offending posts .Its easy to accuse people of something and then not put something up to back your post. Maybe you are missing what they are trying to get across. Edited May 20, 2014 by ordnance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydi73 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Ordnance...I gave you 3 forum topics to read in my opening question!! Read before leaping in and sounding stupid!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Question,whats the best semi auto,but I will settle for which is the best hoover Dyson or that henry chap. sorry mate, its miele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Question,whats the best semi auto,but I will settle for which is the best hoover Dyson or that henry chap. Surely you mean "vacuum cleaner". Hoover is a brand name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Ordnance...I gave you 3 forum topics to read in my opening question!! Read before leaping in and sounding stupid!! I think due to the medium of typing and reading, the nuances you would hear in real life aren't there, so it's easy to confuse "trolling" with "banter". I would suggest anyone who can't take a bit of banter shouldn't really be on a largely (but not exclusively) adult male oriented forum. That answer you gave above is certainly going to win you some friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I reckon 2 more pages or so and it'll get locked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) Ordnance...I gave you 3 forum topics to read in my opening question!! Read before leaping in and sounding stupid!! I asked for examples of the offending posts ,( NOT TOPICS.) Read before leaping in and sounding stupid!!. Is it not fair to let the people you are accusing explain their posts, And then forum members can decide if they are trolling or not. Edited May 20, 2014 by ordnance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I think most (certainly not all!) on the forum are intelligent enough to know the difference between banter and trolling... But in fairness "Lloydi73" you can hardly complain about the trolls when you post insults about other members. It just puts you in "their" league.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydi73 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Jamie, Who did I insult?!? I've read through twice, nope, can't see any insults? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derfley Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Honestly over the years I've been a member of a lot of forums, usenet discussion groups and even BBS's before that, and on the whole they are nice helpful bunch here. Sure you see the occasional bun fight and even the odd teddy (clay?) been thrown out of the pram by a poster but you will see that on any internet forum, a smiley doesn't always convey that something is meant in a tongue in cheek manner that the poster wanted it to. As far as internet forums go this one is pretty well moderated. The mods aren't too strict but on the whole they don't let any name calling or thread derailing get out of hand. They even manage to do a good job in the "off topic" section of allowing a good old discussion of politics and other emotive topics without letting things get out of hand. Ultimately, and unfortunately you do need a certain thickness of skin to post on any public internet forum. Keeps a sense of humour and use the ignore feature on those members who annoy you they will be in the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydi73 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) I asked for examples of the offending posts ,( NOT TOPICS.) Read before leaping in and sounding stupid!!. Is it not fair to let the people you are accusing explain their posts, And then forum members can decide if they are trolling or not.I'm not going to cut and paste 20 pages worth of troll comments. Like I said, read the posts!! Additionally, go in to sporting videos and watch "roost shooting" some poor guy posted a video of him and his mate shooting. Ok, granted, they weren't the most professional looking or safest......the guy was rather portly, and all that was "slagged off" was about his size and pork pie eating!! I agree nothing wrong with banter , I give it, I take it....but the comments on the guys video were just vicious, vextious strands of diatribe and down right nasty and not in the context of any light spirited leg pulling!! Would you like me to download this for you too ordnance, or can you cope looking this up for yourself?? Edited May 20, 2014 by lloydi73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I'm not going to cut and paste 20 pages worth of troll comments. Like I said, read the posts!! Additionally, go in to sporting videos and watch "roost shooting" some poor guy posted a video of him and his mate shooting. Ok, granted, they weren't the most professional looking or safest......the guy was rather portly, and all that was "slagged off" was about his size and pork pie eating!! I agree nothing wrong with banter , I give it, I take it....but the comments on the guys video were just vicious, vextious strands of diatribe and down right nasty and not in the context of any light spirited leg pulling!! Would you like me to download this for you too ordnance, or can you cope looking this up for yourself?? You sir are trolling, there have been no names named, no links posted or referenced........... Unsubstantiated accusations/ inflammatory posts on an internet forum are the definition of trolling.......http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I think due to the medium of typing and reading, the nuances you would hear in real life aren't there, so it's easy to confuse "trolling" with "banter". I would suggest anyone who can't take a bit of banter shouldn't really be on a largely (but not exclusively) adult male oriented forum. That answer you gave above is certainly going to win you some friends. You know........... I reckon you'd make a really good mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 You know........... I reckon you'd make a really good mod Do you get a company car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Would you like me to download this for you too ordnance, or can you cope looking this up for yourself?? It wasn't me that posted about trolling. If I do post about anything I will post examples if there are any to try and back my post. There is banter if it gets out of hand the mods are usually good at making a judgment and taking appropriate action. You might get a example of that soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 now now girls play nicely BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 It can't be just me who's thinking this thread has taken something of an ironic turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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