guest1957 Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Hear, hear. All of the really nice ones too :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juby trap Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 The people have spoken! so has wot they've voted for , and if that's an example of the best they've got to represent and run our country , then heaven help us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 I thought they look more like participants in a gurning competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 so has wot they've voted for , and if that's an example of the best they've got to represent and run our country , then heaven help us. And your alternative is ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 so has wot they've voted for , and if that's an example of the best they've got to represent and run our country , then heaven help us. What's up JT? So you are happy with the way this coalition government has run things are you? Or maybe is was all those successful years under Blair spending billions we haven't got? UKIP will freshen up British politics and for the good. If nothing else it will show the other party's they need to actually get their acts together and start delivering or go down the tube. The Tories are ****ting it and just watch the rats jump from a sinking ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxie Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) It`s up to Ukip who they choose as their heirachy but Neil Hamilton .They must be taking the ****,however it does not seem to bother their supporters one little bit. Edited October 11, 2014 by maxie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juby trap Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 sorry lads was referring to Haywood election . ive always been tory, voted UKIP last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 What's up JT? So you are happy with the way this coalition government has run things are you? Or maybe is was all those successful years under Blair spending billions we haven't got? UKIP will freshen up British politics and for the good. If nothing else it will show the other party's they need to actually get their acts together and start delivering or go down the tube. The Tories are ******** it and just watch the rats jump from a sinking ship. What do you want UKIP to do that the coalition haven't? Economy- Can't really do more than has been done, we are going in the right direction and doing better than most of the eurozone- haven't seen much economic policy from Nigel. Imigration- Agree it needs tightening but needs a structured approach The EU- I would like to see change, we have been promised a referendum but you can't just walk away from a signed treaty. You say they need to start delivering- let's have some detail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Keg - Immigration - all the parties talk about it - only UKIP addresses it directly - is a massive issue. What is a structured approach? Just another phrase for doing nothing. Shades of Yes Minister - form a committee and forget about it. Not only do we need to be far more careful who is allowed in, we also need to consider the millions who are here illegally and our almost complete lack of action on removing them. Add to that, the nutcases we allow to claim asylum and there you have it. Total farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Keg - Immigration - all the parties talk about it - only UKIP addresses it directly - is a massive issue. What is a structured approach? Just another phrase for doing nothing. Shades of Yes Minister - form a committee and forget about it. Not only do we need to be far more careful who is allowed in, we also need to consider the millions who are here illegally and our almost complete lack of action on removing them. Add to that, the nutcases we allow to claim asylum and there you have it. Total farce. When the illegals are found, why oh why are they allowed out on bail to disappear yet again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 I rest my case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 What i mean by a structured approach is closing down borders where we can but this is also linked into the EU question. Deport those who are here illegally but allow those in with either a genuine need for asylum or those who will add to the economic wellbeing of the country. The Australian model is a good example. The bail issue is not just limited to immigrants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 What i mean by a structured approach is closing down borders where we can but this is also linked into the EU question. Deport those who are here illegally but allow those in with either a genuine need for asylum or those who will add to the economic wellbeing of the country. The Australian model is a good example. The bail issue is not just limited to immigrants. Indeed it isn't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 To see what is in the mind of the electorate wait until the result of the Rochester and Strood by-election, where they will be voting for the party in spite of the candidate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy boy Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 agree wholeheartedly with tightchoke. even if illegals are caught nothing happens to them. just told to report on such and such date, do you really think they will. it's a win win situation once they reach our shores. the lemon who thought up that rule needs a good (must remember women may be reading this forum). surely the amount of forces people getting their P45s could be used to fill vacancies on our border posts, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) seems ukip now say they will do a deal with anyone including labour so it looks like millipede will be pm then wonder where that would leave the eu referendum? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2788812/i-ll-deals-farage-prop-minority-government-avoid-second-coalition.html Edited October 11, 2014 by overandunder2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Croc Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 seems ukip now say they will do a deal with anyone including labour so it looks like millipede will be pm then wonder where that would leave the eu referendum? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2788812/i-ll-deals-farage-prop-minority-government-avoid-second-coalition.html The main thing with Nigel is the EU referendum, he said he would happily sell his soul to the devil to get it. So if it means the devil is liebour, then that would be part of the deal, (don't think millpede will still be they're leader then) Think it would be a Tory/UKIP coalition though (hopefully) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 agree wholeheartedly with tightchoke. even if illegals are caught nothing happens to them. just told to report on such and such date, do you really think they will. it's a win win situation once they reach our shores. the lemon who thought up that rule needs a good (must remember women may be reading this forum). surely the amount of forces people getting their P45s could be used to fill vacancies on our border posts, Don't worry there's not many things you can say we haven't heard before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Keg - fair points - I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) Just a thought but could these Tory 'defections' be a planned way of getting on the inside to bring UKIP down from within? The Tories have the most to lose from UKIP's success, so any tactic to stop it would be their priority. Maybe in Clacton they know they still have a Tory MP who will follow a Tory agenda, despite the wishes of UKIP. The video of the Labour mayor in an earlier post also hints at underhand practices. Edited October 11, 2014 by 955i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Mononoia, a bit like paranoia, they are still out to get you but you are the only one that knows about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) Mononoia, a bit like paranoia, they are still out to get you but you are the only one that knows about it! Would you put anything past politicians? Seriously?? Noticed no Labour or LibDim conversions. Just saying Edited October 11, 2014 by 955i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Would you put anything past politicians? Seriously?? Noticed no Labour or LibDim conversions. Just saying Absolutely not, and not yet but I imagine it might be a bit like making popcorn when it starts. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 The main thing with Nigel is the EU referendum, he said he would happily sell his soul to the devil to get it. So if it means the devil is liebour, then that would be part of the deal, (don't think millpede will still be they're leader then) Think it would be a Tory/UKIP coalition though (hopefully) so basically who ever teams up with ukip will win it seems and nigels prepared to do deals for a chunk of the pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 If UKIP find themselves in the unenviable position of being in coalition then they will be dead in the air. If it's with the Torys then they will get the referendum (already promised by Camo) but will be seen as good old fashoned euro-sceptic Torys but with no trump card, if they team up with Labour they'd never get the referendum but would be seen as trators by the right. If there will be another coalition it will be more than likely lib/lab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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