doctors appointment....

[VicW]

No no no, I can't stress enough not put anything down your ears, especially anything with pressure....

I doubt Boots are going to sell a product that will cause harm as long as it is used according to the instructions and a Doctor is going to tell you to put warm olive oil in your ear for a few days before having them syringed.

 

Vic.

[islandgun]

well all you guys rip the urine out of us jocks, but if I phone at 8 a.m. I will get seen that morning. proper health service up here

we dont have to make an appointment just turn up but then theres not many people here

Edited December 3, 2014 by islandgun

[Badgerpig]

NHS has had its day, I was always an advocate but not any more,

 

why should somebody whose worked and contributed to the nations coffers for 10,20,30 + years wait in line with the feckless, foreign and workshy?

 

its on the verge of total collapse, too many taking out with not enough contributing, it was a great idea in its day but times have changed

 

i'll get me coat..............

[Fisherman Mike]

NHS has had its day, I was always an advocate but not any more,

 

why should somebody whose worked and contributed to the nations coffers for 10,20,30 + years wait in line with the feckless, foreign and workshy?

 

its on the verge of total collapse, too many taking out with not enough contributing, it was a great idea in its day but times have changed

 

i'll get me coat..............

 

Sad you feel that way as its a magnificent service...however if you can afford private care go for it !

[TIGHTCHOKE]

 

 

, well it wont be me burdening them ( in January ) just seen the kits on boots website and am doing it myself,

 

Make sure you put a towel and a bowl by the lower ear to catch what runs out!

[kyska]

I doubt Boots are going to sell a product that will cause harm as long as it is used according to the instructions and a Doctor is going to tell you to put warm olive oil in your ear for a few days before having them syringed.Vic.

I'll stand by my words, put nothing in your ears, personal, qualified experience.

 

I don't care what Boots say.

Make sure you put a towel and a bowl by the lower ear to catch what runs out!

Oh.....lol Edited December 3, 2014 by kyska

[AVB]

 

Sad you feel that way as its a magnificent service...however if you can afford private care go for it !

Even private hospitals are being dragged down now that they cater for NHS overspill as well. At my local private hospital they now have 'premium' care for paying patients and 'pleb' care (I am not sure of the real name) for NHS. The difference is a different queue at check in and a free newspaper. I think you might also get a different car parking space too but they are always full anyway (I just park in the consultants ones). It's a shambles. It's like airlines without the frequent flyer miles!

 

I've given up with NHS GP's as well so pay to see a private GP. OK it's £50 a pop but no hassle.

[Davyo]

A friend who had a dodgy knee was told by his doctor that it would be 6mths to see a specialist and a poss add 6 mths if lucky for a op.He said he couldn't wait that long,so asked about paying,doctor pulled a diary out of his draw.He saw a consultant within a week and operation within two.

Edited December 3, 2014 by Davyo

[88b]

I must be lucky, phone my doctors at 8am or walk the 300 yards there, 99% of the time I can get an appointment that day. I've experienced good and bad in both private and NHS care, I prefer NHS for most things, with private I find they do all they can to run up the bill and it's a bonus if your cured. So many people have private healthcare now it's just as busy.

[Whitebridges]

Look at the rise in population figures and understand the benefit and free treatment system.

 

Then look at the differences in these islands about who get's it free and who doesn't.

 

Next step is to think very carefully about where you place the x at the next General Election

[rich1984]

In fact, why are you whining OP?

You only need your ears sorting so you can buy some ear defenders, that's hardly an urgent appointment, you'd be moaning when you had a real need and found out you couldn't get seen because someone needs their ears cleaning out.

The old lass that is the NHS has her problems, as she slowly sinks to her knees in exhaustion, but really, you're moaning about getting an appointment, that isn't needed medically?

 

While i admit its not life threatening, do you think 4 weeks is an acceptable time to wait ? Thats why im moaning.

[kyska]

While i admit its not life threatening, do you think 4 weeks is an acceptable time to wait ? Thats why im moaning.

It's a completely reasonable amount of time to get something done to your ears, which is non medical, I don't even know why you expect the NHS to do that for you, you want some ear defenders, you need your ears clearing of wax, how does that warrant an appointment with an NHS nurse?

 

Pay for it yourself privately.

 

If it were for a hearing aid, then granted, but for this, no, you have no reason to complain.

Edited December 3, 2014 by kyska

[kyska]

A friend who had a dodgy knee was told by his doctor that it would be 6mths to see a specialist and a poss add 6 mths if lucky for a op.He said he couldn't wait that long,so asked about paying,doctor pulled a diary out of his draw.He saw a consultant within a week and operation within two.

And? So?

 

The waiting list is shorter for private Dr's, how difficult a concept is this to compute? They don't have the complexities of the NHS to orientate, they have access to immediate operating theatres, nurses, operating department practitioners, physiotherapists etc, without the constraint of triage.

[kdubya]

And? So?

 

The waiting list is shorter for private Dr's, how difficult a concept is this to compute? They don't have the complexities of the NHS to orientate, they have access to immediate operating theatres, nurses, operating department practitioners, physiotherapists etc, without the constraint of triage.

are you for real? they are the same sodding consultants

 

 

KW

[Luckyshot]

It's a completely reasonable amount of time to get something done to your ears, which is non medical, I don't even know why you expect the NHS to do that for you, you want some ear defenders, you need your ears clearing of wax, how does that warrant an appointment with an NHS nurse?

Pay for it yourself privately.

If it were for a hearing aid, then granted, but for this, no.

But not being able to wear ear protection will lead to a very expensive medical problem.

[Davyo]

And? So?

The waiting list is shorter for private Dr's, how difficult a concept is this to compute? They don't have the complexities of the NHS to orientate, they have access to immediate operating theatres, nurses, operating department practitioners, physiotherapists etc, without the constraint of triage.

The fact is they a greedy ******** who will put money before health.when my back went it took 3 weeks to see my doctor.When my renewal went in last week I rang to to hand the medical form in (Durham bullying pilot scheme) and cross his palm with £50. Edited December 3, 2014 by Davyo

[kyska]

are you for real? they are the same sodding consultants

 

 

KW

How many consultants can you fit into one operating theatre?

 

Trust me, you know little of what I know about this.

[kyska]

are you for real? they are the same sodding consultants

 

 

KW

How many consultants can you fit into one NHS operating theatre?

 

Trust me, you know little of what I know about this, from what I've read about you, you might not take that statement too lightly.

 

But not being able to wear ear protection will lead to a very expensive medical problem.

Let's see

 

And again, how is the medical turntable able to deal with that type of comment?

 

A nurse has been asked to syringe ears, let's look at his/her diary, what's more important, with the Xmas break coming up, let's syringe ears, rather than assess diabetic patients that may need help over the break, rather than calling 999, repeat prescriptions, making sure people who really need help, rather than ear defenders are going to be looked after aswell as we can, putting less strain on what is, obviously, an unappreciated, underfunded wonder.

 

Triage.

Edited December 3, 2014 by kyska

[kdubya]

How many consultants can you fit into one operating theatre?

 

Trust me, you know little of what I know about this.

I know for a fact that when I had my 1st knee done I could have seen the same consultant 5 weeks before I did, had I gone private,fact that not fiction, the same consultant did ops at 4 yes four hospitals in the area, he controlled the bookings, how do I know? simple he told me , as when I did get to see him he asked if I could come back the NEXT day and have a total knee replacement !! we agreed a date a week later so I could square my work commitments

 

 

KW

[kyska]

I know for a fact that when I had my 1st knee done I could have seen the same consultant 5 weeks before I did, had I gone private,fact that not fiction, the same consultant did ops at 4 yes four hospitals in the area, he controlled the bookings, how do I know? simple he told me , as when I did get to see him he asked if I could come back the NEXT day and have a total knee replacement !! we agreed a date a week later so I could square my work commitments

 

 

KW

Again,

 

So? And?

 

How many surgeons can you fit in an operating theatre? How many nurses and odp's can a dr have access to? (And be able to provide the expert care we expect from the NHS, even stripping wax from someone's ears so they can get some ear plugs).

 

With all due respect, you have no idea.

Edited December 3, 2014 by kyska

[rich1984]

Are your 1st 2 replies not enough to expect this to be done by a trained NHS professional ?

 

 

 

It's a completely reasonable amount of time to get something done to your ears, which is non medical, I don't even know why you expect the NHS to do that for you, you want some ear defenders, you need your ears clearing of wax, how does that warrant an appointment with an NHS nurse?

Pay for it yourself privately.

If it were for a hearing aid, then granted, but for this, no, you have no reason to complain.

 

 

I'll stand by my words, put nothing in your ears, personal, qualified experience.

 

 

No no no, I can't stress enough not put anything down your ears, especially anything with pressure....

[rovercoupe]

and winter flu jabs!

 

I have home done my ears for the last few years and never had a problem just be gentle, I even moulded my own plugs due to std earplugs causing pressure in my ears.

 

Oh and my gp is now offering a walk in service 6 days a week and saying same day appointments, I think it means that if your ill enough you will go there and see someone which takes effort and all the lazy I have a cold crew will be triaged and made to wait and the most ill get seen quickest! no more phone up appointments.

[kyska]

Are your 1st 2 replies not enough to expect this to be done by a trained NHS professional ?

 

I'd expect it to be done by a health professional, but for the purposes you want it doing, by a private health professional, and you pay for it.

 

If you had aural problems, or needed a hearing aid moulding fair play, not for this, sorry.

[kdubya]

Again,

 

So? And?

 

How many surgeons can you fit in an operating theatre? How many nurses and odp's can a dr have access to? (And be able to provide the expert care we expect from the NHS, even stripping wax from someone's ears so they can get some ear plugs).

 

With all due respect, you have no idea.

come on then clever lad tell me that if you pay you WONT see the same surgeon/ consultant quicker.

 

 

KW

[kyska]

come on then clever lad tell me that if you pay you WONT see the same surgeon/ consultant quicker.

 

 

KW

Less of 'lad' please, stay civil now.

 

Operating theatres are packed, back logged, working 24/7, apart from people needing routine op's that aren't prepared to go to hospital at midnight, they are prepared and ready for injury and emergencies, why are you prepared to argue about something you obviously know absolutely nothing about?

 

There aren't enough NHS theatres to fit the surgeons in, how hard a concept is this?

 

A consultant may well be seen quicker privately, come on, you're a clever chap.

Edited December 3, 2014 by kyska