matth12321 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Looks to me like the backstop was the wood behind... and woodland is a safe backstop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 and woodland is a safe backstop? Not at all mate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matth12321 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Not at all mate... didn't think so... maybe there is something more substantial we can't see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 and woodland is a safe backstop? Not if someone is walking their dog just inside and that's why the deer are jumpy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbox Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 In the comments on the youtube it suggests the shooter was in a high-seat to the right of the camera, so maybe the backstop was not as suspect as it looks in the vid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE AD Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Sorry, I wasn't trying to pick holes. I understand there is a lot of people on here that have never held a rifle, let alone shot one so do not understand the implications of rattling a bug Let around a wood as to where the fallow have just been spoked from. It might have all been good but, let the onlools know this. I remember when field sport's TV did something the same and where soon put right. The next show they showed thing in better light. As for the comment on being squeaky clean and never making a mistake! No, not with a rifle. If you do then as far as I see it, your not fit to hold an FAC. you can not make mistakes with a rifle so that was a stupid comment What are these doing wronghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gqPnPNfTYA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 What are these doing wronghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gqPnPNfTYA I don't know, as we were talking about op videon where we not. Why don't you enlighten up as you obviously know better and can see something that a few others can not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldwanderer Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 What are these doing wronghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gqPnPNfTYA Genuinely, what did I miss? For a moment, I thought he was going to use the hedge as a backstop but no He seems to rely heavily on his safety but, given where the muzzle is pointing at all times, seems acceptable to me I didn't see him make the rifle safe after taking the shot (and reloading) before he put it down no monocular or binoculars? But that's with me actually looking for faults and I'm really none the wiser :( but then, I'm not a stalker - yet. Would like to learn from whatever he did wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 In the comments on the youtube it suggests the shooter was in a high-seat to the right of the camera, so maybe the backstop was not as suspect as it looks in the vid. That would make more sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michufc Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Well like it's been said you have to start somewhere safety is paramount over any shooting discipline. Now we can only see from where the camera is pointing so we can only judge on that. The herd looked a bit jumpy to me though and without being able to see from the camera angle a safer backstop I might not of taken the shot. But it's very hard to tell as I am not behind the rifle. Overall I enjoyed the video please don't take all comments people give in a bad light after all it's your first video and we all are making comments for you to make your next one better Well done lads look forward to the next one Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 I enjoyed the video but as said if shot taken across the field the wood is the back stop but if taken out of high seat well done to you all on your first video looks a nice area for fallow big fields and wooded area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Genuinely, what did I miss? For a moment, I thought he was going to use the hedge as a backstop but no He seems to rely heavily on his safety but, given where the muzzle is pointing at all times, seems acceptable to me I didn't see him make the rifle safe after taking the shot (and reloading) before he put it down no monocular or binoculars? But that's with me actually looking for faults and I'm really none the wiser :( but then, I'm not a stalker - yet. Would like to learn from whatever he did wrong though. No no! Don't read wrong, fair play formtaking your time out to film and post up. Just the shot and lead up to it was shown in poor light. As already said, when not there, but, from what could be seen from the camera angle and talk on film. Nothing was said as the time that shot was from high seat or what spooked the fallow in the way. All the camera tells and shows is, small group of jumpy fallow that know something is wrong in your direction, then they run one way, turn and come back over with more added to the group and looking back towards other would and letting out warning barks. Then gun told to take shot. After shot taken someone gets up of the floor. To me, and dare say a number of other's, the thought are , not to take the shot at that time as it looked unsafe. It looked like the group had been spooked by someone in other wood. With the hushed whispers and someone getting up of floor under camera it made it look like that person took the shot off the bipod which would then be using wood and a back stop. We were not there so can only go by what the camera dictates. If it was an airgun or shotgun then would batter an eye lid but being something like 100gn+ bullet doing 3000+ fps we know chances should never be taken. I only called it as I saw it and it would seam I wasnt alone in the call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 I think one of the problems with the video is that from the very start I am not filled with confidence, someone saying you must check your zero every second stalk started the alarm bells ringing, and watching the stalk made me apprehensive I don't want to be negative about anybodies shooting, after all we, by and large do this for fun, but if you are brave enough to put up a video you have to expect comments will be made both good and bad, I wish you all the best with your stalking Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldwanderer Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) No no! Don't read wrong, fair play formtaking your time out to film and post up. Just the shot and lead up to it was shown in poor light. As already said, when not there, but, from what could be seen from the camera angle and talk on film. Nothing was said as the time that shot was from high seat or what spooked the fallow in the way. All the camera tells and shows is, small group of jumpy fallow that know something is wrong in your direction, then they run one way, turn and come back over with more added to the group and looking back towards other would and letting out warning barks. Then gun told to take shot. After shot taken someone gets up of the floor. To me, and dare say a number of other's, the thought are , not to take the shot at that time as it looked unsafe. It looked like the group had been spooked by someone in other wood. With the hushed whispers and someone getting up of floor under camera it made it look like that person took the shot off the bipod which would then be using wood and a back stop. We were not there so can only go by what the camera dictates. If it was an airgun or shotgun then would batter an eye lid but being something like 100gn+ bullet doing 3000+ fps we know chances should never be taken. I only called it as I saw it and it would seam I wasnt alone in the call. Sorry, I'm talking cross purposes here; "the AD" posted a separate link to someone else's video and asked "what are these doing wrong". My comments were about that one, I couldn't see anything much wrong so wondered what I'd missed. I have to admit, the o.p's video looked a bit "iffy" to me but it's not for me to say; if the guy pulling the trigger was happy it's his call Edited January 4, 2015 by fieldwanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Re the reference to another video,I couldn't see a whole lot wrong either, perhaps the op would let us know what it was all about ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRECISION SHOOTER Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 http://youtu.be/mQwQZpndE4o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolkngood Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Now I never have shot a rifle or ever plan to shoot deer with one but I have to ask................was that really an adequate backstop? It sounded like the shooter was lying/standing beside the camera man so couldn't have been shooting down in to the ground. I'm sorry if the shooter was elevated but it appears not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXHUNTER1 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 just thinking the same.....backstop ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Yes I was quite shocked at the horizon shot considering the added worry of another team out in the sticks in full camo.A rather bad end to what started out a good video ,that shot thew all the previous safety advise out the window I'm afraid. Edited January 9, 2015 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Wasn't this posted in "sporting vids section last week??, I think it was? The same questions as above were asked and answered then, Atb Flynny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta06 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'm not sure this is something different. The video is in several threads. It is Spam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 What's more worrying is they even put it out thinking that shot was ok after editing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolkngood Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Wasn't this posted in "sporting vids section last week??, I think it was? The same questions as above were asked and answered then, Atb Flynny Yes I've just looked and it was. And as you have said, the same concerns were raised. You have to ask yourself why anyone would want to start multiple threads of the same video knowing that their safety has been questioned previously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Nice video. yeah probably could say about the safety but you didn't mention it about guns being emptied and cleared when you went to inspect the animal. just one thing not sure if it's just on my phone but at the start alan's head was chopped off s bit. That's purely just an personal thing that would grate me thats all. good clear video quality was easier to watch than the fox one. Same as was said on there thou starting intro needs fading out really. keep up the good work thou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) Its you need to check zero after every to stalks they made me laugh my rifle must be miles out by now Edited January 11, 2015 by andrew f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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