drewster Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Hi all, I wasn't sure where to put this topic so hope this is the right place. In short I've just escaped being scammed by a US Navy person from Nigeria! I've got some chokes advertised on Gunstar and received an email from a potential buyer, "Jordan David" a "Navy (USNR-VS-82 NAS Alameda)" wanting to buy them for his friend as a surprise gift. Apparently due to the nature of his job he made arrangements for his "agent, who is a registered arms dealer to come pick it up when payment is cleared in your account". He asked for my PayPal email address and pick up location. I just gave my email address. After asking him to be sure the chokes would fit his friend's gun as I didn't want him to be dissapointed or the hassle of refunding and returning goods it all went quiet for a few days. Suspicions arose. I sent another email asking if he was still interested. I got curt reply saying "okay send me your paypal account". No hello. No signature. I sent it and then got an instant email from Jordan David saying PAYMENT HAS BEEN MADE!. But he told me he sent £320 and that because he had sent £200 too much PayPal were holding the payment which he said he had added to pay for his agent's pick up costs, and that I would receive an email to this effect from PayPal and that I must reply to this email accepting the payment. Here's the crunch. He said I would then need to send £200 to the pick up agent Headquarters via Western Union or Moneygram Transfer. And there he lost me... Why would anyone in their right mind give me £200 to send to their agent? why not do it themselves? He also sent the pickup agent's details. Augustine Aihetuamen 147 Barrack Road City: Ibadan State: Oyo State Zip Code: 23402 Nigeria. Any of this make you nervous? In return he wanted my full name, address, MTCN reference numbers etc. I did get some scam emails from a fake PayPal address which landed in my spam folder. I was warned they may land there. Why, when I get PayPal emails into my inbox all the time? PayPal addresses were wrong. spelling mistakes and bad grammar in the so called PayPal emails and the generally contrived manner of the whole thing makes me think Mr "David" isn't playing nicely. Emails were forwarded to PayPal's fraud address. And of course a check on my PayPal account revealed no such payment were made or awaiting my acceptance. I think they are relying on people replying instantly and doing everything on the move through their mobile phone. That's the only way they've showed a bit of intelligence. As for the rest, it's the usual poor grammar, dodgy looking links and poor layout. PayPal also warn against anyone who asks for payments to be made through Western Union or Moneygram Transfer. Be warned, scammers are now trawling Gunstar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 The "i am in the navy" scam has been going for a good while now,and anyone that tells you they can't make it but will send their agent should set your bells ringing so loud you will get tinnitus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Its been going on for years http://discussions.texasbowhunter.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-420148.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly87 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Yep had the 'I'm a navy/army dude' a few times. The last one I got however was 'I'm an oceanographer stuck on a survey ship, can I send my agent...' Thought it was at least a little more original Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Had one trying to buy my Mondeo - wish I'd agreed to let him pick it up from Aberdeen... ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Same with Ribs, looking to buy one a couple of years ago, nearly 50% had the same m"Husband had died, boat in Scotland", Paypal will refund if not happy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Quote Message Received: Mar 12 2015, 12:50 PM From: "Jordan David" <markqz10@gmail.com> To: ***************net Cc: Subject: Re: *********** - Message regarding ad: ********* Hi,i am an Navy (USNR -VS-82, NAS Alameda, VS-82.), I'm buying this for my friend as a surprise gift, so i'm willing to offer you the amount you required. Due to the hectic nature of my job, the only mode of payment that best suit this transaction is Paypal therefore i have made arrangement with my agent who is a registered arm dealer to come pick it up when payment has been cleared in your account so i would want you to get back to me with your pay pal email address for me to make payment to you and perhaps, your pick up address so i can have my agent to schedule pick up appointment after payment. Kindly get back to me with the following questions below: 1) Are you the Owner? 2) Pick up Location? 3) Your PayPal Email ID to effect the payment 4)asking price once again for confirmation? Thanks and God bless From Jordan David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovercoupe Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 send em a couple of bricks postage due. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Used to do it with dodgy cheques, they would have a stolen chequebook and send you a cheque for more than the items value asking for the change, that way you cash a dodgy cheque for them and then take the heat for it when the owner wonders where their money has gone and they are in the clear, a sort of mini money laundering scheme, maybe the money would be sent from a hacked paypal account? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 The money would not be sent from any Paypal account and you can always refund it to the purchaser via Paypal.. As soon as Western Union or any wire money service is mentioned you know it is a scam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 i have had a few of these...so i just play the game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokie Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 I was selling a classic car on classic car mart and had nearly 200 of these type of emails all based in Nigeria . just bin them and don't give them the time of day . It's a shame because someone somewhere must fall for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markr Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 mate of mine got banned off ebay for stating in his ad "will not send to your cousin in Nigeria so dont ask" apparently it was racist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 I get phisching emails quite often can spot em a mile away just forward details to spoof@paypal.com let them sort em out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 There was an entry on a US site with this comment "Surprised, nobody caught that he says he is stationed at NAS Alameda.1. Alameda is in California, it's a beach to ship a firearm into the state on a transfer sales through a FFL, and2. The NAS Alameda closed in 1997.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Air_Station_AlamedaFor a quick history lesson, the reason NAS Alameda, Moffet Field, NWS Concord, Mare Island Shipyard, plus multiple other Navy bases were closed in CA was the Navy saying "Up yours" to Ron Dellums, the Congressman from Oakland, ex Black Panther and a thorn-in-the-side to the Navy in Congress for many years. When it came time to close bases, and eliminate jobs, the Navy remembered who their friends where in different states." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 its the advance fee fraud system. if you list anything online for sale you`ll get guys trying it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10gaugewannabee Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 well many thanks for posting it, as i had never heard of it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewster Posted March 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 That's the one. Glad to see everyone is ahead of the game and thanks for the heads up on other scams. I think in general if anyone has any difficulty in getting funds to you it should ring alarm bells, but as Stokie says, it's a shame, someone will always fall for them somewhere. I like the idea of posting a few bricks postage due. Chokes anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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