Size 12 Shot Cartridges

[Stacker Shepherd]

Hi,

 

Does anyone know anywhere selling shotgun carts in 12's?

 

Regards

 

SS

Edited May 9, 2015 by Stacker Shepherd

[welshwizard]

Never seen them in that shot size myself particularly in 12 bore , have you tried www.justcartridges.co.uk see if they listed ?

[robbiep]

I've only ever seen that size of shot in .22 shotshell.

 

Allegedly, Fiocchi make 11 and 12 shot 12 bore (!) cartridges for 'small migratory' bird shooting. Again, I can't imagine much demand for them, so you'd probably need to ask someone to order some in for you, and hope that the minimum order was only a slab.

 

Webber on here (RFD) stocks fiocchi cartridges, so he's probably the ideal person to ask

[panoma1]

English lead shot sizes only go up to 9's, however I think you can get a "dust" shot in small gauge cartridges too?........Italian shot size do go up to size 13, so if your very, very lucky you may find some Italian loaded cartridges in shot size 12?.......otherwise home loading may be the only way forward?

[aris]

Small shot like this is popular in Greece and Cyprus.

 

Victory are a Cypriot cartridge manufacturer - not sure if they have representation in the UK, but you can ask them.

 

http://www.victorycartridges.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=12&Itemid=15

 

Edit: Google found this:

 

http://rkstockcraft.co.uk/ammunition/shotgun-cartridges/

Edited May 9, 2015 by aris

[Stacker Shepherd]

Thanks a lot for the responses people i thought this might be the case. I will do some ringing round!

[fenboy]

Can I be nosey and ask why you want some ?

[Stacker Shepherd]

Can I be nosey and ask why you want some ?

Just out of pure curiosity and fancied shooting some at skeet as I've read they are quite good for it.

[deershooter]

Just out of pure curiosity and fancied shooting some at skeet as I've read they are quite good for it.

I purchased some 1.5 mm shot from Siarm and loaded some in 28 gram shells ,breaks were very poor and not enough energy to break the clay past the middle peg ,on the high house stand 1 I never broke the clay now the low house stand 1 was a different matter vaporised ,mind you you should be able to hit that with BB s

 

Don't waste yourtime and money

 

Deer shooter

[Westley]

Just out of pure curiosity and fancied shooting some at skeet as I've read they are quite good for it.

So are 7 1/2's.

[robbiep]

I would doubt they'd maintain the energy to break a clay.

 

English size 12 shot is supposedly 0.35 grains per piece of shot. Even assuming 1250fps MV, that's only 1.2ft/lbs at the muzzle. The energy dropoff would be horrific.

[welshwizard]

I have always fancied trying some size 9 shot on clays but asked locally in "C.S. Sporting " where I buy my shells - none and not desperate enough to run round for them .

[Guest cookoff013]

I purchased some 1.5 mm shot from Siarm and loaded some in 28 gram shells ,breaks were very poor and not enough energy to break the clay past the middle peg ,on the high house stand 1 I never broke the clay now the low house stand 1 was a different matter vaporised ,mind you you should be able to hit that with BB s

 

Don't waste yourtime and money

 

Deer shooter

 

+1

 

I have always fancied trying some size 9 shot on clays but asked locally in "C.S. Sporting " where I buy my shells - none and not desperate enough to run round for them .

#9s are great. you should try them on sporting, i do through full/full/full and they crush targets. on the odd occasion do some long range stuff.

[Whitebridges]

In the days when huge flocks of starlings used to be a problem we used no 12 shot. They came in a rolled turnover paper case.

No idea of the manufacturer or load weight. This was in the late sixties / early seventies.

[Suffolkngood]

I remember as a child watching employees of a big maltings firing into massive flocks of starlings. When the roost started it seemed like well over three quarters of an hour before the continuous 'flight' ended. There must literally have been 100's of thousands of them.

 

It always amazed me though how few were actually shot down.

[Floating Chamber]

I have seen No. 12 shot. They were loaded for South Africa in the early 1990s for crop protection.....two legged types.

[EMcC]

I have seen No. 12 shot. They were loaded for South Africa in the early 1990s for crop protection.....two legged types.

My father used wheat for the same reason here in UK, I'm in my seventies so it was a long time ago

[figgy]

Rock salt or rice was used when I was a lad, rock salt was the worse of the two.

[anser2]

When I was a young teenager we used to use Eley scare bird dust shot , I think they were No 10 shot size. My friends father was apple grower and we used them to shoot bullfinches in the orchards in spring.

[steve_b_wales]

I've got a box of #11 shot, which, on the box is described as 'Orchard Shot'.

[panoma1]

If memory serves before the P of B Act or was it the W&C Act? around the Evesham/Worcester area the smallholders used to use dust shot on bull finches etc in their orchards.