morty Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Hi all Today my mate phoned me to tell me I'm not allowed to shoot over the crops on the farm anymore , I asked why this is , and he tells me its part of his farms crop insurance . To guarantee that there will be no shot in any of the crops ie , peas , wheat , barley , osr. He doesn't know the true ins and outs of it all , he will get a copy of the email tomorrow , but his boss advised him to let me know . Never heard anything like this before , has anyone else been told the same . He said that they will be putting the bangers back out on the pea field as there where about 500 pigs on there yesterday . Can't see the bangers keeping the pigeons at bay . Morty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Never, ever heard of such a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 A new one to me , one of my farmers phoned me today too ---------------------- asking me to shoot the pigeons that are eating his greens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutt Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Did hear something like this about rape seeds but never came across any problems with farmer YET. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Did hear something like this about rape seeds but never came across any problems with farmer YET. I've heard nothing of the sort, we grow rape, barley, wheat and beans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 this is very likely to be a new load of ******** that will soon be imposed by the supermarkets on food producers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckandswing Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 There has been research into this before. The link below details a recent study on rape. http://nrl.northumbria.ac.uk/17004/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckandswing Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Another link. Farming news detailing lead shot in wheat. http://www.farming.co.uk/news/article/10340 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0850 Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 I've heard nothing of the sort, we grow rape, barley, wheat and beans. Likewise if I had more spare time I'd be shooting ours more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Another link. Farming news detailing lead shot in wheat. http://www.farming.co.uk/news/article/10340 I think the OP's friend may be jumping the gun a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 The only crop I have been told I couldn't shoot over was a couple of fields of Lettuces , and that was because the farmer whose land I shoot on had contracted the land out . Fair enough . All our spud land is grown for Tescos , although you wouldn't see any spent shot on the spuds , but its a different kettle of fish with greens and peas that are grown above ground with the quality control enforced with the big super markets like M + S and Waitrose , if they saw a bit of shot in a Cauliflower or Cabbage they would reject the whole field costing the land owner a lot of money . so if they say no shooting over a veg crop I doubt if the farmer have got a lot of choice but to abide by there wishes . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 I cannot shoot over greens once they have got to a certain stage of growth , but never had a issue with shooting peas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 I cannot shoot over greens once they have got to a certain stage of growth , but never had a issue with shooting peas. Same here , I have never heard any mention of shot found in Peas , weather it is riddled out during the process of getting them ready for freezing I don't know, but there must be a few bits of shot penetrate the pods after a days shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morty Posted June 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Will see if I can get a copy of mail tomorrow , as marsh man said think he is scared of having hole crop rejected , I spose its his land and his livelihood at the end of the day . See what happens tomorrow . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morty Posted June 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 I cannot shoot over greens once they have got to a certain stage of growth , but never had a issue with shooting peas. Was told soon as peas start podding , shooting has to stop . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Will see if I can get a copy of mail tomorrow , as marsh man said think he is scared of having hole crop rejected , I spose its his land and his livelihood at the end of the day . See what happens tomorrow . End of the day, that's it, his land, his rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadbreakfast Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Iv heard this before when it's for human consumpsion. But never had it around my way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Nearly all the clay shoots I know of have fall out areas over arable land, not to mention game shooting. Sorry to say but it sounds like they just don't want you shooting anymore. Edited June 9, 2015 by zipdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolkngood Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 He said its to do with 'insurance'. Insurance companies do not want to pay out on any possible future claim due to lead in the food. In a claim culture society I think this will become more and more common I'm assuming that the insurance is there to protect the farmer if he was unable to harvest/sell his crop. The insurance company doesn't want the risk of it being rejected from market place due to lead. It's the pinstrip suit brigade looking after their profits at the expense of the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 There will be more of this kind of thing in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) Where have you lot been hiding haha. Its called assured crop and its been around for yrs and yrs farmers get a slightly better price per ton if there agree to there growing conditions and terms . However a lot dont bother as its hassle . I have a few places where its assured . We still shoot it all you do is set up in the feild along the edges so your shooting OUT of the feild NOT into it . Edited June 10, 2015 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 I would have thought the research being done by Northumbria may well be over bywell. For those who have been up there 10 meters in front of the traps there are crop fields. As as shooting takes place towards these fields then it is inevitable that there will be an increase in lead in the soil and crops. It takes university research to find this out? A bit different to banging a few cartridges in random angles at pigeons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 We have had it years ago with the Co-op who guaranteed the price on some sprouts as long as they were shot free, we just shot the fields nex to it away from the crop as Stevo said previously . As JDog stated we will get more restrictions in the future as the anti countryside lobby increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Does not lead degrade in atmospheric conditions?? Over to the the Chemists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 All the supermarkets will be on to this an many are already. Lead is evil don't you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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