srspower Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 I swapped 250 eley pigeons for 250 of Toms yellow RC Sipe 32 gram number 6's, as he was buying a 20 bore. I saved them for the stubble and whilst I got a reasonably good bag I would have gotten so many more birds with my regular load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Well done chap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Good shooting lad. Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooterluke Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Good vid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubear Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Thanks for sharing that, great vid! For some reason the sections that you filmed on the head mounted Go-Pro reminded me of that computer game DOOM hehe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Why do you say you would of got more? I use 26g of 6 RC in my 20b and have great results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srspower Posted August 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Thanks for watching guys Why do you say you would of got more?I use 26g of 6 RC in my 20b and have great results I think it's because my gun doesn't fit me so i have to adapt to shoot it well. And it took me a long time to master it. So when I use hot loads like RC it completely puts me off my swing. You can see in the footage at times the stock comes away from my shoulder. I smacked my face too. Still a good day but I should have shot around 25 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Its not the cartridge that the issue, its getting used to the speed of the cartridge. You would not think it makes much difference but I find it does especially on longer shots. Last winter I needed some more game cartridges, my old cartridge ( Eley Grand Prix High Pheasant) had been discontinued and replaced by VIP High Pheasant. So I had a box of 25 of them and a box of 25 Black Golds. Used the latter all morning, not to bad all in all, used the former after lunch and shot like a house on fire. First one was a high cock curling away to my right, 30 yards or so up and at least the same away with the wind up his backside, half choke and it was instantly dead. Decision was more or less made there and then !!. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Another interesting video. Just a couple of things you could try. Maybe put your decoys and rotary closer to the hide and keep the rotary between your hide and main decoy pattern. This may help you to get the pigeons to commit a little better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srspower Posted August 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Another interesting video. Just a couple of things you could try. Maybe put your decoys and rotary closer to the hide and keep the rotary between your hide and main decoy pattern. This may help you to get the pigeons to commit a little better. Yeah I did try moving the magnet closer but then it was interfering with the pattern. So I took it in, had reasonably good results after that. Thanks a lot for the feedback, we are out again on Saturday weather permitting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Another interesting video. Just a couple of things you could try. Maybe put your decoys and rotary closer to the hide and keep the rotary between your hide and main decoy pattern. This may help you to get the pigeons to commit a little better after watching the vid I thought exactly the same, most shots were at long range good shooting though,, but could make it easier by moving everything 10 yards closer in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 At least you had a fair bit of trade coming in. I have the pattern a lot closer than that and I did notice that a high percentage of the birds were double shots even though they had fallen to the shot. I kept thinking "why has he given that bird another barrel" and some of those birds were way out there unless it is an optical stunt of the camera lens that just makes it look like that. I start my pattern about 10 paces out and the far ones about 25 paces out. This puts the birds in the 30 > 35 pace bracket when coming in or going away which is about the best pattern range for 1/2 choke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srspower Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 At least you had a fair bit of trade coming in. I have the pattern a lot closer than that and I did notice that a high percentage of the birds were double shots even though they had fallen to the shot. I kept thinking "why has he given that bird another barrel" and some of those birds were way out there unless it is an optical stunt of the camera lens that just makes it look like that. I start my pattern about 10 paces out and the far ones about 25 paces out. This puts the birds in the 30 > 35 pace bracket when coming in or going away which is about the best pattern range for 1/2 choke Yeah definitely all too far out, I made the same mistake Sunday. Hence why we kept having to finish them off. The hide was pretty good we could have got way with it closer. Will change tactics on Saturday I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm not a cartridge freak or brand geek and I don’t care about brand or what they are. In my bag I might have several different types, brands and shot sizes. I don’t even look at them. As long as they go bang and I put the lead on the target it usually falls down. Years ago it used to be grand prix 1-1/16oz 30 grm that was pretty std but one time I invited a friend to shoot with me and I put him in the next field to me on a reasonable line. He soon got shooting a lot and he was knocking them down all over the place at ranges that seemed to be incredible. Generally he shot clays and he was using Maionchi 32grm 8s. This display really made me think and ever since then I don’t even consider what type, brand or anything> I just plonk em in the chamber and shoot. The only thing that I do, do if possible is to set my hide about 30 paces away from a tree that pigeons might alight into. I then have a box of #5 shot available in a belt hung on the hide pole to knock down the ones that flight into the tree. I’ve found that if I shoot these perching birds with 6,7 that there is a fair old cloud of feathers and the blighters fly off into the distance but the 5’s drop em. I don’t set up under the tree because your sitting in the hide and you might hear one flap into the tree or one stars cooing up there but you cant see where they are. This means that either they fly away on the next shot or you get out of the hide and the devil flys out from the tree from the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning 425 clay hunter Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Great video. Thanks for sharing. ATB 425 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srspower Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm not a cartridge freak or brand geek and I don’t care about brand or what they are. In my bag I might have several different types, brands and shot sizes. I don’t even look at them. As long as they go bang and I put the lead on the target it usually falls down. Years ago it used to be grand prix 1-1/16oz 30 grm that was pretty std but one time I invited a friend to shoot with me and I put him in the next field to me on a reasonable line. He soon got shooting a lot and he was knocking them down all over the place at ranges that seemed to be incredible. Generally he shot clays and he was using Maionchi 32grm 8s. This display really made me think and ever since then I don’t even consider what type, brand or anything> I just plonk em in the chamber and shoot. The only thing that I do, do if possible is to set my hide about 30 paces away from a tree that pigeons might alight into. I then have a box of #5 shot available in a belt hung on the hide pole to knock down the ones that flight into the tree. I’ve found that if I shoot these perching birds with 6,7 that there is a fair old cloud of feathers and the blighters fly off into the distance but the 5’s drop em. I don’t set up under the tree because your sitting in the hide and you might hear one flap into the tree or one stars cooing up there but you cant see where they are. This means that either they fly away on the next shot or you get out of the hide and the devil flys out from the tree from the other side. Really useful information thankyou! I think I need to either get my gun fitted or sell it for something that does fit. I'd hate to sell it though. Great video. Thanks for sharing. ATB 425 Thanks for watching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I think it's because my gun doesn't fit me so i have to adapt to shoot it well. And it took me a long time to master it. So when I use hot loads like RC it completely puts me off my swing. You can see in the footage at times the stock comes away from my shoulder. I smacked my face too. Still a good day but I should have shot around 25 or so. Your gun fit can’t be all that much out because you seem to be able to hit most of the targets. If you think that your gun doesn’t fit you What about making up a butt plate packer as a cheap throw away experiment. All you would need is a reasonably firm bit of foam or even layers of corrugated cardboard or rubber inner tube to cut out a few spacers from. Take the butt plate screws out and draw around the plate onto the material and then reset the plate and re fit in the mirror. All you got to do is to go on youtube and type in “gun fitting” to get an idea of how the picture should look in a mirror. Both of these links might be helpful to you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waBaFgUapW4 Or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-JOj4J_Ltc They make it look so easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilts#Dave Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Looks like you've got the magnet placed way too far out and seems to be blocking the entrance to the decoy pattern.....as a rule I find the pigeons will flare when they get near the magnet so the closer it is the bigger window of opportunity you get to shoot the pigeons! Only what I've found anyway, usually put the magnet no more than 10-15 yards from the hide, to one side of the pattern. Some nice long shots though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 Enjoyed that. Thanks for posting. Can I ask what choke combination you are using? You seem to be killing close birds well enough but taking 2 digs at longer birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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