michufc Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Hi to all I would like to advise please we have a 5 year old spaniel who is really placid at home and goes into work mode when out but my wife and kids would like another dog (fluffy number) but that's just not coin to work so I was thinking about a border terrier but I don't have any experience with them. I have two young kids aswell so we wanted a smaller dog than the spaniel are they good dogs to have and looking at the prices they seam a bit pricey to me £500-£700 Any advise welcomed please Regards mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 They're good dogs, but like most terriers can be good at making their own entertainment if bored. Despite huge effort on our part, our border chewed a lot until she was about 18 months old. She is great with the kids though 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 My parents have a small bitch,it was supposed to be a show dog but didn't make the grade due to a kink in its tail. Now I have two springers that live permanently outside and they smell a bit,but the indoor border stinks and loses quite a bit of its coat,the dog is plucked and not trimmed. It's a nice tempremented dog around other dogs and children, but it has a murderous side when around rabbits. It sort of minds it's own business when around my two who are both dogs but terrible pests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) We got a BT 3 years ago as a puppy (our first ever dog). He's an absolute wee gem - Not a bad bone in his body. He came from a litter of four - two boys and two girls - and my wife became friends with the owner of one of his sisters, purely by accident, after meeting at puppy classes! Our boy is a bit 'big' compared to his siblings... I blame myself for rough play when he was a pup. I've never had him out in the field, though, he's purely a pet. Good coat but needs stripped a couple of times a year. I'm usually allergic to dogs but seem fine with BTs. Register on borderterrierworld.co.uk for loads of advice, and there are similar pages on FB. Edited November 2, 2015 by humperdingle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michufc Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Would it be better to get a bitch or dog as we have a dog at the moment just thinking for temperament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michufc Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Yes it would be a pet but I would like it to be able to keep up with the spaniel when we take him out as a family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazbev Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I had a Border and he was a great dog, I would advise you to get one from working stock not the weedy squashed nosed smaller dog which are show type, there are people that sell them from working parents and they won't cost as much as that. Great temperaments normally but they are quick and agile and will kill anything smaller, rabbits rats squirrels cats hamsters Guinea pigs you get the idea. They shed a lot of short hairs and have to be plucked not trimmed, they are not yappy dogs like other terriers and are great alarm dogs for the house they will let you know when someone is around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I have a Border. He has never complied with any instructions or requests from me which is why I appreciate him so much. You must get one from working stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martindd Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I've got three and had plenty more over the years and bred 3 generations,for terriers there generally good with other dogs really good with kids and can take plenty of exercise. There coats can get everywhere! My eldest is 16 and never been to vets other than for boosters,so generally healthy. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntsman Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Working Stock why ? A dog will work as like anything the more you PUT into it,the more you will GET OUT OF IT. Time and effort thats what you need to do,I have had terriers for over 30 years and this malarkey tale of working stock is a load of cods wallop. I have trained and worked many a dog NOT from working stock,dont be fooled. Show dogs try googling Tyson Border terrier he was on the countrymans weekly page regularly won lots of shows and was a good working terrier Buying a pup from Working parents doesnt mean to say any pups from that particular breeder will perform any different from any other breeder all you will be buying is reputation of a particular bloodline. Like I say You only get out of a dog what you are prepared to put into it. Great dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Huntsman, I think you will find that people were speaking in general terms, as a farmer I only keep or buy sheepdog pups from working stocks this puts the odds in my favour as far as working ability goes. Edited November 2, 2015 by E.w. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 this is as a pet so why working stock is beyond me, in my experience working equates to more stamina, more energy and more drive to work. Most of the things that make a house dog a pain in the backside. My mums had borders for years and they are game little dogs, hers are great with kids fine in the house proper characters. In your situation a dog wouldbe easier but a bitch usually calmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) I've had one for 11 years. She is from a working foxhound pack in the Lakes and has a wonderful pedigree, but unfortunately due to a bug picked up after being lined she can no longer breed. They are quite wilful as pups (and at times as mature dogs also ) but after constantly taking her beating with me as a youngster she has learned to stop and return to the whistle, she works like no other dog I've seen, and has a magnificent nose. She marks rabbit holes and all in our rough shoot have learned to watch her tail when rooting for pheasants; ignore her and you wont be ready. She returns pigeons (until she gets fed up with the downy feathers), will pick up rabbits (until they stop struggling, after which she loses interest ) will swim the river to retrieve pheasant, ditto for ducks and has on two occasions retrieved geese from the river, once after nephews Springer failed to do so. A local landowner often asks me to bring her along when they're lifting the last of the straw, as rats often congregate under the last bit of cover before they have to make a run for it. She loves this and her eyes sparkle with excitement. She has also been a wonderful pet to both my kids and very rarely barks, the exceptions being when she is having a standoff with a pricked and very sharp beaked corvid or my daughter has shut her out of her bedroom, on whose bed she likes to sleep, often with her head on the pillow. She is wonderful and marvellous, and I'd have another at the drop of a hat. Get one, you wont regret it. Forgot to mention, she has on occasion, retrieved the clays we've missed when having an informal knock about on the farm. Edited November 3, 2015 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Blimey Scully,I didn't know I needed a Border Terrier,I do now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Blimey Scully,I didn't know I needed a Border Terrier,I do now. I can take very little credit for her training as she hasn't had any. All I have done is teach her to stop and return to the whistle. I had to really as she was just about uncontrollable as a pup; one sniff of a rabbit and she was off and I daren't let her off the lead initially when beating, which can be hard work. They can take two or three seasons to get steady but it's well worth the effort. I couldn't take her beating if she was going to run in, and basically the rest she has just picked up from watching and running with other dogs on local shoots. There is a picture of her retrieving a dead goose from the river Eden many years ago in the archives of the Shooting Times magazine somewhere. The only time I don't like taking her is when I'm in a hide; she can just about wreck a hide as she tends to go through rather than round. Mates think it's hilarious, which it is really, 'til the novelty wears off, having to rearrange the hide after every downed bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldweld Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Our Border has a fabulous temperament great with people, Should I say loves people would spend the rest of her life on anyone's knee if she could. Will ignore other dogs unless pressed then WILL nip. and if they don't back down or go away she will happily have a full on fight. She's a Black Hearted Murderer of Furry or Feathery critters and would destroy cage or hutch to get her prize ! Will disappear when following Hare or Fox scent . She was the first border I have owned and a 7 has been a steep learning climb, BUT she's fantastic company will sleep when your busy, play when you have time and walk to the end of the earth if that's where your heading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) Our Border has a fabulous temperament great with people, Should I say loves people would spend the rest of her life on anyone's knee if she could. Will ignore other dogs unless pressed then WILL nip. and if they don't back down or go away she will happily have a full on fight. She's a Black Hearted Murderer of Furry or Feathery critters and would destroy cage or hutch to get her prize ! Will disappear when following Hare or Fox scent . She was the first border I have owned and a 7 has been a steep learning climb, BUT she's fantastic company will sleep when your busy, play when you have time and walk to the end of the earth if that's where your heading. This made me smile. Just about sums up Borders I feel. My OH came in red faced and flustered some years ago when the kids were much younger. She had taken them and the dog for a walk down by the river and let our dog off the lead on the banking path. Unfortunately, there were some chickens roaming on the river banking. OH said it all happened far too fast for her to react and our dog had killed two chickens before she could get it back under control, having to physically restrain her. Daughter, who was about 11 at the time, thought it was brilliant. OH didn't. She doesn't get on with my ferrets either. Nor does the dog. Edited November 3, 2015 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michufc Posted November 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 It sounds like for a lot of people have a real soft spot for borders does any body know of any breeder / litters in the midlands by any chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 My daughter used to do kennel work for a lady who used to breed borders at Griffydam years ago near Loughborough. I will try and find out if she still does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michufc Posted November 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 That would be brilliant if you can Thanks mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the big shot Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Try this site http://www.champdogs.co.uk/breeds/border-terrier/breeders?pc=CV1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) Jane Parker is still listed for Conundrum kennels Griffydam. http://www.champdogs.co.uk/breeder/4160 Edited November 4, 2015 by loriusgarrulus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the big shot Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 I think Jane Parker now lives in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 I think Jane Parker now lives in Canada. Didn't know she had emigrated, Her Facebook page still shows her breeding miniature horses and borders. I must ask my Daughter to see if she knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Jane has lived in Canada for several years now. Contact the secretary of any of the breed clubs and they will help to find a pup. Google border terrier breed clubs and you will find a list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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