Lloyd90 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 I have just read that apparently a new ruling at the high court says that the private parking leeches sending those fines is now enforceable Anyone have any news on this ? Literally only got one today, the sign saying about it was actually totally blank so I feel o could contest it, although I was just going to ignore the swine as I've done so in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Argument was lost over hiw proportional fine was, not other reasons. If signage is inadequate or missing, that is still a valid defence. If it goes to court a picture of said signage will invaludate companies claim. Ignore it but get pic of signage as evudence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Argument was lost over hiw proportional fine was, not other reasons. If signage is inadequate or missing, that is still a valid defence. If it goes to court a picture of said signage will invaludate companies claim. Ignore it but get pic of signage as evudence. Think it's pretty clear ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Come on, admit it . . . you carry a can of white spray paint just in case don`t you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Come on, admit it . . . you carry a can of white spray paint just in case don`t you? I wish lol! They deserve more than that anyways! Think they're nothing but bully boys. The ticketer also must have clearly seen that sign yet done it anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumphant59 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 I ignored one from a McDonald's car park from met parking for £50 which ended up being passed to a dept recovery firm and increased to £150! Ended up contacting McDonald's customer services told them I would never use their restaurants again and they reduced back to original £50. Learnt after if I had gone to the McDonald's restaurant in the 1st place they would have instructed met parking to remove the charge. Lesson learnt! Re above you need to appeal sending photo of blank sign and guess it will be waived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLuke Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) Go to pepipoo.com and read on the forums Has saved me many fines. Edited November 8, 2015 by LondonLuke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chady Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 When you have sorted the fine out! Can you clean your car?? lol please Think it's pretty clear ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 As a landowner, with people parking on his land, him being unable to access his garage, my best pal finally put up signs. That didn't work so he introduced a £25 fine. It took a while for people to notice so he can now get to his garage but he still gets one now and again. Two sides to every story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 As a landowner, with people parking on his land, him being unable to access his garage, my best pal finally put up signs. That didn't work so he introduced a £25 fine. It took a while for people to notice so he can now get to his garage but he still gets one now and again. Two sides to every story. I was parked at the side of a road, on a business park, where the company I work for has offices. It was not sign posted (as you can see) ànd i was not blocking any cars or entrances in anyway. As for your mate, unfortunately putting up a sign isn't justifiable to start giving out "fines". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 I agree with your post Lloyd, the sign is clearly blank and some companies will try anything to make a fast buck. He left it a few days before the fines started. It almost came to clamping but people got the message. He was at desperation stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord O War Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 If I remember right only a court can issue a fine, what these tickets are are invoices. A fine you have to pay an invoice you can tell em to shove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 To make a fine endorcable it has to carry the power of law, I.e been placed there by the council or police with the permission of a court. Private companies do not have the power of the court behind them so they issue you with an "invoice" which they try to convince you you have a duty to pay. If I opened a company ad randomly sent you an invoice you would not pay it as we would have no legal contract between us saying you must pay or where you have agreed to honour it (and quite rightly so). It's the same with private parking fines, as you have never signed any contract with that company and they do not carry the weight of law behind them it is unenforcable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 The same rules apply to any council operated mobile speed camera vans that pop up now and again emblazoned with "working in partnership with Herts constabulary" , only a police officer or fixed camera (which has its own legislation) can send out legally endorcable speeding tickets, not Derek from the council offices (otherwise we could all go and sit at the side of the road dishing out fines whenever we wanted) however If when asked the local council can supply the badge number of the police officer who was present at the time the ticket was issued and witnessed the offence it becomes endorcable (but they can't and usually try to squirm out of it using some data protection act garbage) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Is that a private road? No road markings!! I'm not sure of the law, but if it's a public road surely there would be road markings also!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 There was something in the news a few weeks back about making these "invoices" from private parking firms enforceable. I should have read it all instead of just glancing at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pond digger 007 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I don't understand why people think they have a right, to free use of other people's property. Furthermore, I don't see why a property owner, shouldn't be allowed to make a reasonable charge for any inconvenience caused. If there is no sanction available, then people will take advantage, and without thought, divest the property owner of his rights. That said, there does need to be clear signage: those property owners that deliberately set out to deceive and take advantage of the unwary, are fraudsters, in my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I don't understand why people think they have a right, to free use of other people's property. Furthermore, I don't see why a property owner, shouldn't be allowed to make a reasonable charge for any inconvenience caused. If there is no sanction available, then people will take advantage, and without thought, divest the property owner of his rights. That said, there does need to be clear signage: those property owners that deliberately set out to deceive and take advantage of the unwary, are fraudsters, in my view. It was a knee jerk reaction to greedy land owners clamping vehicles. They would leave access to land wide open, hide signs behind bushes or other signs then call in clamping firms and enforce a ludicrous release fee. The quick and simple way round it was to ban clamping. Of course this doesn't affect councils or government, they're still allowed to clamp / remove vehicles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Just say your car was broken down and needing towing to be fixed (and then produce said letter headed letter from friendly garage). - well that used to work a long time back anyhow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) If the ticket was issued by a legally entitled body, that is "Conspiracy to defraud" - quite serious. Edited January 5, 2016 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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