Gavin_d Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) Yesterday I heard a French man was caught with a gun at gatwick, then it changed to a grenade. Now this morning I've heard in the news it was a knife and an air rifle. However the police carried out a controlled explosion. Explosion of what? Wish we could hear the news with facts not speculation. Edited November 15, 2015 by Gavin_d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Security forces will be very twitchy now and all it takes is one 'phone call that someone is behaving strangely near an airport, nightclub, sports event etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 I thought the same about the controlled explosion, but I guess they can't take the risk. The air rifle COULD have had the air cylinder stuffed with c4. Unlikely I know but so was a shoe, pants, printer cartridge bomb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Yesterday I heard a French man was caught with a gun at gatwick, then it changed to a grenade. Now this morning I've heard in the news it was a knife and an air rifle. However the police carried out a controlled explosion. Explosion of what? Wish we could hear the news with facts not speculation. He apparently ran and threw the weapon in to a bin, the place was evacuated and a military Bomb Disposal Team will have been called in to carry out a render safe proceedure upon the suspect package. This will involve rupturing the package through a long axis and then checking what is found. The package may well have been xrayed before the controlled explosion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if it was a BB gun and Swiss Army knife, probably presents for his kids. They will certainly screw him over though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul65 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if it was a BB gun and Swiss Army knife, probably presents for his kids. They will certainly screw him over though. If I was innocently at the airport with presents for my kids I can't imagine circumstances under which I would decide my best option was to flee and dispose of the presents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 How do you know he was fleeing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 And why hide them in a bin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) How do you know he was fleeing? http://www.standard.co.uk/news/travelnews/gatwick-airport-evacuated-after-suspect-package-sparks-security-alert-a3114486.html Plenty of reports! How do you know THEY WILL SCREW HIM OVER? Edited November 15, 2015 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Just thinking about the lads going Boar shooting in Croatia in the next few weeks, taking firearms through the Airport, that could be rather exiting for some of the passengers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Just thinking about the lads going Boar shooting in Croatia in the next few weeks, taking firearms through the Airport, that could be rather exiting for some of the passengers. Yeah, think they may be best covering them up. Walking through the airport with it on your shoulder and mag in may just cause a slight problem If anyone does do it can you video it please :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Let's face it the airport was shut down, if it was a panic over nothing the police are not going to admit it. It is reported is being an air pistol and a knife, not the tools for a masacre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 http://www.standard.co.uk/news/travelnews/gatwick-airport-evacuated-after-suspect-package-sparks-security-alert-a3114486.html Plenty of reports! How do you know THEY WILL SCREW HIM OVER? Reading the link it sounds as likely that he realized it was silly taking an air pistol through security and chucked it in a bin. Probably looked a bit worried and suspicious doing it coming up to security. And the panic started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Let's face it the airport was shut down, if it was a panic over nothing the police are not going to admit it. It is reported is being an air pistol and a knife, not the tools for a masacre. And if you were there making decisions on the little information you had and having full regard for public safety would you have said there was nothing to worry about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 I would say they were careless should have created a 2 mile exclusion zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Let's face it the airport was shut down, if it was a panic over nothing the police are not going to admit it. It is reported is being an air pistol and a knife, not the tools for a masacre. It is comforting to know that you are NOT in charge of airport security anywhere in this Country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Let's face it the airport was shut down, if it was a panic over nothing the police are not going to admit it. It is reported is being an air pistol and a knife, not the tools for a masacre. Interesting you say that. There are a fair few people on here who would argue that knives in particular are indeed the correct tool for a massacre...as are cars, baseball bats and blunt instruments!! It's the 'go to' argument for those who want the return of handguns for 'home defence' and protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 It is comforting to know that you are NOT in charge of airport security anywhere in this Country. So you are suggesting it is sensible to shut an airport because a man who wasn't even airside had an air pistol and kitchen knife? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 So you are suggesting it is sensible to shut an airport because a man who wasn't even airside had an air pistol and kitchen knife? Yes, because the authorities dealing with the situation didn't initially know it was an air pistol, they didn't know if this was an isolated incident or if it was a diversion from another, more serious. incident. Given the recent events I would say they reacted as I would have expected - and it shows would-be attackers just how thorough the police will be in protecting the public. By the way I believe it was only one terminal that was closed and not the whole airport. Your initial post is correct though, he didn't appear to flee from the scene as suggested, and he was probably just an idiot who didn't engage his brain rather than a terrorist but either way I have no complaints about how seriously they took the threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) You're damned if you do and damned if you don't. The bloke was a bit silly to take an air pistol and knife if this was the case to the airport in the first place, but I suppose he got near control and so what the hell do I do with this lot. If you had gone to a police officer and try to hand them in I would imagine that he would be wheeled in for interrogation as to why I had them on the premises in the first place. He obviously didn't realise or think that he was being watched or else he probably would've put them in a carrier bag and discretely put them in a bin and walked away. Most likely that he had been having a few shandies and wasn't switched on to how this was going to pan out. I bet that he has had his rear kicked over this one and may end up being banned from every airport which may cost him his job and if He is married he will be on a charge because there might not be any more foreign holidays. The thing is that this kind of thing happens at every airport everyday in regard to people booking in and then going off to the pub and forgetting they are supposed to be on a plane flying somewhere. Sometime I remember that bloke Jeremy spake on the airport programme a few years ago was always having to go and drag people out of the pub excetra to get them on their flight. the only thing is that this is more serious and just being late for a flight. I've been on flights where people have booked in and then not arrived at the airplane even though their suitcases have been loaded This has caused the delay in offloading their baggage. I think that is clear is that the camera operator was well switched on to see this incident and appreciate that something out of the ordinary had happened. it could have been a serious problem. This is similar to if some busybody phone's plod up and they come out. They don't know what they're walking into so they go into to Overdrive and go way over the top making people lie down in a soaking wet grass field excetra but how do they know what they're dealing with. Edited November 16, 2015 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Let's face it the airport was shut down, if it was a panic over nothing the police are not going to admit it. It is reported is being an air pistol and a knife, not the tools for a masacre. but both can kill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 The police in NI are increasing have to deal with real threats every week. I don't see them shutting major infrastructure down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 but both can killwrapped up in a bin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3vert Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 I think it is fair to say airports are on high alert at the moment. I have not read the full story on this one but what's to say they didn't believe he was causing a diversion and that others were ready to start something when the police were investigating this? Was he airside or public? IF public surely he could have been strapped with a suicide vest? I am in and out of airports far too often, there is no messing these days. Just last week in Edinburgh the girl in front of me had the riot act read out to her for leaving her bags unattended! Well when I say unattended I mean she put all her bags and laptop etc in the big tray at security and walked of without pushing it 6inches onto the conveyor belt! That brought her a red face as the security team ####ed her for leaving it unattended. Another one I seen was at the gate, when the doors were opened and before people were called to board a 2 year old child ran away from her Mum and made it passed the girl taking the boarding cards, the 2 year old made it about 3 feet passed the girl taking the boarding cards, the airport lass then announced that this was a security breach and thanked the Mum for her now having to explain to her boss how this security lapse had occurred! Like it or lump it airports are not a place to mess about anymore, and they sure are not a place to take an air rifle/pistol and knife! In short do I think the police over reacted? No. I am glad our airports have high security. I just wish the ones I use in the middle east had the same high levels, they don't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 I think it is fair to say airports are on high alert at the moment. I have not read the full story on this one but what's to say they didn't believe he was causing a diversion and that others were ready to start something when the police were investigating this? Was he airside or public? IF public surely he could have been strapped with a suicide vest? I am in and out of airports far too often, there is no messing these days. Just last week in Edinburgh the girl in front of me had the riot act read out to her for leaving her bags unattended! Well when I say unattended I mean she put all her bags and laptop etc in the big tray at security and walked of without pushing it 6inches onto the conveyor belt! That brought her a red face as the security team ####ed her for leaving it unattended. Another one I seen was at the gate, when the doors were opened and before people were called to board a 2 year old child ran away from her Mum and made it passed the girl taking the boarding cards, the 2 year old made it about 3 feet passed the girl taking the boarding cards, the airport lass then announced that this was a security breach and thanked the Mum for her now having to explain to her boss how this security lapse had occurred! Like it or lump it airports are not a place to mess about anymore, and they sure are not a place to take an air rifle/pistol and knife! In short do I think the police over reacted? No. I am glad our airports have high security. I just wish the ones I use in the middle east had the same high levels, they don't! Just laughing about the last part (2 year old kid running past) as I was boarding a sleazyjet plane to Amsterdam last week and once the normal speedy boarders had finished, the speedy boarding desk was left unattended whilst the lady was just doing the normal queue... an old couple walked up the escalators (Stansted) to the gate and then just walked through the speedy boarding desk straight on to the plane but hadn't 'checked in' so to speak. Delayed us by a little whilst when all sat on the plane as they were waiting for them to arrive still! It took my colleague explaining and then them being spoken to by staff for us to get on the move.... crazy that nobody noticed them just casually walk through the boarding gate onto the plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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