hatsanmad Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Hi guys i got given a couple of homeloads which i really like. There using the vecatan as powder Now i i have wieghed the powder the shot i.d the wad and its using a cx2000 primer. The load is for a 28gram load. Which is great for pigeons. But what i have been thinking is if i use the same brand of wad and load that with 34-36 gram of lead and add say 24-26 grain of powder instead of the 21.3 grain thats in these loads would it work? Or would i be best getting medium burn powder for this type of load? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 I wouldn't I think the a.s. powders for light loads cookoff should be along soon though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Hi guys i got given a couple of homeloads which i really like. There using the vecatan as powder Now i i have wieghed the powder the shot i.d the wad and its using a cx2000 primer. The load is for a 28gram load. Which is great for pigeons. But what i have been thinking is if i use the same brand of wad and load that with 34-36 gram of lead and add say 24-26 grain of powder instead of the 21.3 grain thats in these loads would it work?Or would i be best getting medium burn powder for this type of load? As stated numerous times, stick to proof tested or/and published formulas! ........asking advice from anyone you don't know or/and guessing how much powder and shot and what wad is a recipe for disaster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Go with another powder ... you could still stay in the Vectan family, but you'd be looking at A0 I believe .... Claygame will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 That would be just plain stupid and just might kill you. Have you done any research on how these things work??? Honestly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Hi guys i got given a couple of homeloads which i really like. There using the vecatan as powder Now i i have wieghed the powder the shot i.d the wad and its using a cx2000 primer. The load is for a 28gram load. Which is great for pigeons. But what i have been thinking is if i use the same brand of wad and load that with 34-36 gram of lead and add say 24-26 grain of powder instead of the 21.3 grain thats in these loads would it work?Or would i be best getting medium burn powder for this type of load? Do no fudgeing with loads. Get solid info. That's the hard part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB1954 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 For a 34 - 36 gram lead load you need PSB2 powder, get data sheet and wads from Clay & Game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 I dont know about 34-36g with PSB2, I never loaded it that heavy, I used to have a fantastic load for 31g #6, fast and hard hitting, I would probably go with AO for heavier loads Mikee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Your suggestion probably wouldn't fit in the hull for a start. More importantly, you are dealing with explosives so DON'T fool around with the recipe unless you know exactly what you are doing. Your suggestion indicates that you don't and you are asking to injure yourself badly as well as destroying your shotgun. If you want to go for a different load then get a recipe for that load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) If you have psb2 then it will do 36gm of lead shot get hold of the clay and game data sheet, as per post #7 , simple. Edited December 2, 2015 by rbrowning2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatsanmad Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Hi guys i am new to this so hence my question. All advice has been noted and taken on board thanks very much guys. Iv looked and i have a bottle of ao and a bottle of psb2 on order to my local rfd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Watch this space we could have Britains entry for the Darwin Award here Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Increase the shot weight AND powder If you increase the load you would normally reduce the powder charge! By upping both, the pressures would be rather alarming to say the least! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Hi guys i got given a couple of homeloads which i really like. There using the vecatan as powder Now i i have wieghed the powder the shot i.d the wad and its using a cx2000 primer. The load is for a 28gram load. Which is great for pigeons. But what i have been thinking is if i use the same brand of wad and load that with 34-36 gram of lead and add say 24-26 grain of powder instead of the 21.3 grain thats in these loads would it work? Or would i be best getting medium burn powder for this type of load? For my 28gr loads i use super fast cases (free from clay ground ) it consists of rio primer 18.6 gr vectan AS and 28-29 grams lead.. nice smooth round and kills not just the clays but pigeons and crows as well in fact this load is used for everything... I started using 21 gr but was getting muzzle flip so reduced bit by bit till i got a nice smooth cartridge.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovercoupe Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Do you still get a full clean burn with 18.6 grains? What wad are you using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Yes the bore is cleaner than when i use factory loads the wads cannot remember the name but get them from clay and game they are £63 for 5,000... think these are them.. 12GA CGR BUDGET H-12 WAD 12ga CGR Budget H-12 Wad. These wads will hold 28-30 grams in lead shot in a 70mm PT case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovercoupe Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Yes the bore is cleaner than when i use factory loads the wads cannot remember the name but get them from clay and game they are £63 for 5,000... think these are them.. 12GA CGR BUDGET H-12 WAD 12ga CGR Budget H-12 Wad. These wads will hold 28-30 grams in lead shot in a 70mm PT case. Thanks, I have all those components and was going to start on 28g loads next so will give some of thee a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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