rodp Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Only time, or a robber, will find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Has anyone on here ever knocked on his door for permission? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Making people, especially travelers, think he is mad was probably a good deterrent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Or he's just very good at hiding things Keep messing with the ‘window dressing’ as it keeps the general population guessing! And not only confuses your enemies but also amuses your friends! ‘Way to go Tony’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Making travelers mad,in hindsight, probably wasn't ideal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartynGT4 Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 the guy is a total FRUITCAKE,, lock him up and throw away the key, judging by the way he behaves , he needs to be sectioned, a total clown The chap needs help not ridicule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Making travelers mad,in hindsight, probably wasn't ideal Perhaps we should all roll over and stick our legs in the air Eh..?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 I read yesterday that Martin will not be facing any charges over this incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 But that will not stop people berating him for breathing will it DM?, time to let the guy be and maybe help him return to some kind of normal life. I must admit that I would have done exactly the same as he did in the original shooting incident and I am disgusted by the way some of the general public and gutter press treat him now. Good luck to you Sir- I sincerely hope you find some kind of peace and are allowed to get on with your life in your own way. I, for one,salute you. Negatives, in no way aimed at you DM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 But that will not stop people berating him for breathing will it DM?, time to let the guy be and maybe help him return to some kind of normal life. I must admit that I would have done exactly the same as he did in the original shooting incident and I am disgusted by the way some of the general public and gutter press treat him now. Good luck to you Sir- I sincerely hope you find some kind of peace and are allowed to get on with your life in your own way. I, for one,salute you. Negatives, in no way aimed at you DM. I completely agree bruno. The guy has had his life wrecked because of some scumbags who wanted to steal from him and from the press attention that followed the incident. Time to leave him alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 I must admit that I would have done exactly the same as he did in the original shooting incident You would have acquired an illegal shotgun laid in wait to ambush two people then shot them when they were trying to run away, interesting view from a firearms owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 You would have acquired an illegal shotgun laid in wait to ambush two people then shot them when they were trying to run away, interesting view from a firearms owner. You may have missed out "trying to run away after being disturbed breaking in to his house to steal his belongings" possibly ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 ordnance doesn't need to miss it out or put it. Martin did what ordnance said. His actions are not compatible with having an SGC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 But it does put in to context why he did it, whether it cost him his licence or not. Most folk will only take so much then they snap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 How can anyone justify Martin's actions?he had an illegal weapon and he shot someone in the back. If you are happy that he acted correctly you really need to think about it,and as for agreeing you would do the same it beggars belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 There will come a time when people who are repeatedly let down by those charged with protecting them and their property, will take matters into their own hands. It's human nature. He wasn't the first and he wont be the last. It's a sad reflection on the times and society we live in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 But it does put in to context why he did it, whether it cost him his licence or not. Most folk will only take so much then they snap. I find it hard to credit that any SGC holder could be so dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieh Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 ordnance doesn't need to miss it out or put it. Martin did what ordnance said. His actions are not compatible with having an SGC. So perhaps the law should be changed so that legal shotgun owners can defend their property using lethal force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 So perhaps the law should be changed so that legal shotgun owners can defend their property using lethal force using lethal force against someone who at the moment he was shot posed no threat to yourself or anyone else.The law is clear and works,i am honestly surprised by comments like yours,even more surprised that some hold SGC's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 So perhaps the law should be changed so that legal shotgun owners can defend their property using lethal force It would still be murder shooting people that were running away and no longer a threat. Under the current law you can use lethal force to defend your life or famaly etc, but you could have to defend your actions to a jury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieh Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 I am not on about fearing for your life I know what the law is and says I am on about protecting your property (house belongings car)and I probably know more murderers and burglars and thieves than most of pigeon watch put together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 I am not on about fearing for your life I know what the law is and says I am on about protecting your property (house belongings car)and I probably know more murderers and burglars and thieves than most of pigeon watch put together <Places Speechless emoticon on screen> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) I am not on about fearing for your life I know what the law is and says I am on about protecting your property (house belongings car)and I probably know more murderers and burglars and thieves than most of pigeon watch put together So you think we should be able to shoot people if they try to steel our car burgle our house, why stop there what if they walk across your private property your garden. Even here were some people carry firearms for self defence thats what its for not for shooting somewone trying to steel your car etc. The law is what it is Martin was guilty of murder and managed to wriggle out of it with a diminished responsibility plea. Edited February 14, 2016 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 If you want to place burgling your house and walking across your lawn in the same bracket ordnance then be my guest. My post is my opinion/belief and I stand by it, you have read it so know where I stand - anyone enters my house and poses a threat to my family will be treated to any response as I see fit and no consequences will deter me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieh Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 So you think we should be able to shoot people if they try to steel our car burgle our house, why stop there what if they walk across your private property your garden. Even here were some people carry firearms for self defence thats what its for not for shooting somewone trying to steel your car etc. The law is what it is Martin was guilty of murder and managed to wriggle out of it with a diminished responsibility plea. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it as far as I am concerned(my opinion)if somebody is in my house at night,uninvited, my family is at risk do I give them the opportunity to get the jump on me yes he may have broken in to steal the keys of my car am I going to take the risk.What do you think.In one breath folk on here are saying Tony Martin is nuts then you are saying he wriggled out of it,you can't have it both ways.Tony Martin was guilty of manslaughter.My view is Tony Martin did society a favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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