walt1980 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 After reading a bit of negative press and the odd hang fire and limitations in the breeze with the HMR, I'm thinking about changing it. But I'm not sure which calibre to go for, it's going to be used for rabbits out to 150 yards max realistically, but would like to be able to have a bit more range of possible for the occasional longer shot in time. Also foxes at sensible ranges. I haven't the time to reload my own so would need ammo which isn't too hard to get hold of, also won't be shooting thousands so cost wouldn't be a massive issue (within reason) 22 Hornet? 17 Rem? Like the idea of a 22 Hornet but anyone got any experience compared to the HMR?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I got rid of the hmr and got the.22 hornet quite a while ago now Never looked back it will do what you ask more if you reload with a good cf moddy quieter to Shot bunnies from say 15 to over 200 all good for the pot when head shot and producing something like three times the power and reliable predictable bullets good for fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt1980 Posted January 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Just had a quick scan on the net for ammo and seen 35grn for about £20/25 and 40grn £25/50. Sounds like it might be the way to go. CZ527? Ruger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 My HMR has been spot on...... it is easy to let a few negatives obscure vast numbers of good rounds shot through this caliber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 527 223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Cz it's a far and away the better shooter due to the correct twist and being chambered at the time the barrel is made This is an important thing with the hornet and rimmed cases generally Read up about it there is a stack of non shooting Rugers and tack driving Cz Downloading 223 or 222 or stragely the best 22- 250 can all give similar 2800- 2900 fps with 40- 45 grain bullets if you reload Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 As above. I have a CZ 527 in .22 Hornet, and it's an excellent rifle. Very accurate and good quality. I have a Phantom CF moderator on it, which is very light in weight, and works well with this calibre. Reloading is easy and quite cheap. I also have a CZ 527 in .17 Hornet, but, up to now, have hardly used it. It's very accurate though, and cheap to reload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromwell7 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I have an old sako L46 Riimihaki in .22 hornet for sale cheap as I don't use it, 17 hmr is enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Cz527 in .22hornet is definitely the way to go, I sold mine and have regretted it ever since. Great round and moderated really really well, mine was rediculously quiet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 All the Hornets are a step up from the HMR, but you can download them a bit, something of a problem if you have no intention of reloading. Other than that the .17 Winchester Super Magnum is the only thing I can think of, and as that seems fraught with issues and not likely to make it into the UK, or at all, then you don't have a lot of choice. 17 Rem factory ammo is like rocking horse ****, both availability and choice, and if you can find any its daft expensive as well. .17 or .22 Hornet then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 PPU do hornet ammo at £50 for 100 PPU brass for £20 a 100 box of cheap bullets £15-20 powder, primers, gear? end up costing more that that to homeload! http://www.henrykrank.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2448 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernel gadaffi Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 The .22 Hornet with give you 50-80 yards over the HMR in range and has 3 times the terminal stopping power.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Seen as how you don't have the time to reload check availability of 22 hornet ammunition first as its not that popular, otherwise forget it. I have a hornet but reload for mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt1980 Posted January 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Spoken to my local rfd and he's got a couple of people that use it regularly so shouldn't be a big problem. Think it's the way to go!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickthomas Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) get a howa in 204 flavour, skins rabbits @ 250 yds, good for Charlie too!! Edited January 9, 2016 by Dickthomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt1980 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Looks like I'm going down the .22 Hornet route!! 👍🏻 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 All the Hornets are a step up from the HMR, but you can download them a bit, something of a problem if you have no intention of reloading. Other than that the .17 Winchester Super Magnum is the only thing I can think of, and as that seems fraught with issues and not likely to make it into the UK, or at all, then you don't have a lot of choice. 17 Rem factory ammo is like rocking horse ****, both availability and choice, and if you can find any its daft expensive as well. .17 or .22 Hornet then! There is no reason to download a hornet at all factory rounds go 2500-2700 or 3000 in the case ofvthe 35 v max which is a load I haven't got the time of day for Pressurising the hornet were reduced but in a modern gun in good condition there is no great issue in putting 40- 45 grain bullets out at 2700-2800 for the handloader and that's all you realy need for fox and also rabbits with one gun Downloading I can't see the slightest reason to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 PPU do hornet ammo at £50 for 100 PPU brass for £20 a 100 box of cheap bullets £15-20 powder, primers, gear? end up costing more that that to homeload! http://www.henrykrank.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2448 But honestly the things you can do when you step things up a little and get to find what really works in yours makes handloads a must. Not least with a new Cz you have an action well capable of dealing with higher pressures thanvthe hornet got dropped to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I am surprised nobody put .22 WMR into the mix to consider.... another rimfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix's rifle Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I am surprised nobody put .22 WMR into the mix to consider.... another rimfire My RFD does 50g federals' at £12 a box of 50, that's hopefully going to be my next purchase! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 17 mach2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 17 mach2 +1 brilliant little round out to 150yds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 +1 brilliant little round out to 150yds Not as good as the hmr though.... Personally the hmr is a cracking rabbit gun, it's only people who don't shoot many that suggest going centre fire for the job as what's the point of blowing them up in large numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beagle boy Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I've had issues with some ammo latly but it doesn't out my off my hmr, best long range hare and rabbit tool I've ever used I think a step up to a 22 hornet isn't worth the extra cost and you may struggle to find anywhere that stocks ammo. I'd stick with the hmr personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I am surprised nobody put .22 WMR into the mix to consider.... another rimfire In fairness 150 yards rabbits is not really it's niche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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