Essex Keeper Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Would that be air rifles http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35264639 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 56?? Must have a low population density up there or a fertility problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) What we need is a knee jerk reaction to counter the public's inevitable response-I say ban children. Edited January 16, 2016 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 What we need is a knee jerk reaction to counter the public's inevitable response-I say ban children. But not the causes of children! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Yeah don't mess with the kids they are tooling up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Typical BBC distortion tactics by placing them all under a 'weapon umbrella' That organisation out to have its licence to mislead revoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Let's face facts a copper is going to take pen knives and all sorts off kids. Count them as weapons off the street heck there could be toy bow and arrows in that stat Confiscation or prosecution your going to run with the former every time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Does anyone know why the FOI request was made and by whom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 I,m guessing B.B gun,s and air rifles ,Derbyshire police have a policy of confiscating BB guns on sight.But the good old Biased Bunch of Communist,s wont add the facts to the article.Can,t have the truth standing in the way of an anti gun story can we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 I did see a diagram sort of breaking it down into shotguns, but does this include confiscated until a sgc was provided? Rifles - quite a difference between a smk springer and a blaser .308. Air pistols/handguns - again quite a broad range of weapons from .177 to .50 casull! and knives. So as suggested it could be a load of kids messing about with sub 12ft/lb air rifles, and a couple who had their .410 held while dad nipped home to get his sgc. But as usual the press don't let the facts get in the way of a story! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Would that be air rifles http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35264639 It would be anything that could possibly be construed as a weapon. To quote from various poice figures up and down the country.......... The long list of weapons seized included a machete, an axe, and a ball bearing gun, along with bottles, knuckle dusters and hammers. Leicestershire force was called to 138 weapons incidents in schools including attacks with screwdrivers, harassment with a fake gun, and even an assault with a plant pot. Elsewhere, a Lee Enfield rifle was seized from a Gloucestershire school in May, a metal star was seized from a 15-year-old at a high school in Suffolk, a 10-year-old was caught with a 12-inch bread knife at a primary school in Cleveland, and a pitch fork was seized from a primary school in Fife. Other seizures included a piece of wood with a nail hammered through it, a starting pistol and a hammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 And further to the post of Charlie T above, I read an article some time ago which stated that any incident where it was claimed a firearm was used, or a witness stated they saw what looked like a gun, is reported as a firearm incident, even if no firearm was found, and as such, each incident is added to the 'firearms incident' statistics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 FOI! The lazy way of adding column inches on a slow news day. Note, the foi says seized. There is no mention of how many were subsequently returned to their owners. Also the story beautifully morphed from 'weapons seized' in the foi to 'weapons confiscated' in the report. Journalism - the art twisting the facts to fit the story you have already written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 The situation is that maybe this vale of misinformation does neither the BBC or Police any good long term? Just leads further down the road of mistrust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Quite a few years ago, before there were forums like this, somebody went through the gun crime figures, I think it was the editor of Guns Review, and found it included all sorts of things that we wouldn't have thought were appropriate. Suicides, and reports that were never confirmed etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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