First coat of paint on drylining

[Albert 888]

the lads are fast as, the two rooms will be completed sat,apparently the plaster will be dry Mon- Tue,with the aid of dehumidifiers and the heating on. Asked the lads what is best for the first coat and they say watered down emulsion. So is that right and at what ratio,Ie 50/50.

Any help would be appreciated I want it to be show room quality.

Cheers Albert.

[LondonLuke]

In my experience you want it the consistency of milk.

 

About the messiest job going I always think.

[Paddy Galore!]

depends if they've polished it up or not. if it's all shiny then I rub it down with a pole sander, then about 10% water in a basic trade matt will suffice, then 2 coats of something decent to finish. paint isn't what it used to be, I remember when dulux super matt had to be thinned as it was so thick you could trowel it on.

[team tractor]

Don't rush the drying using heat . Your better off with air flow to dry stuff out.

[chady]

Don't use dehumidifier and don't over heat! Let it dry naturally.

 

And 25% paint yo 75% water

[Albert 888]

OK no force drying. Just leave windows open to dry naturally. I think the lads will glass it of so,a light sand to give the paint something to bond to, after the sand I will hover and give a quick wipe over with a micro fibre cloth. The ratio 10-25% and a milky texture with a trade emulsion. What type of roller a thin smoth type one or the thick type ones. I found the most messy job so far and that was bonding the walls with pva watered down with a roller.

 

Thanks for the info.

[Dekers]

I suggest you leave drying slow and gentle and thorough, don't overdo any heat source, the fact is people often don't have the time and need quicker results.

 

On normal domestic paints dilute 25-50%, on trade paints perhaps a bit more.

 

Make sure you use MATT emulsion and not satin.

 

Have fun!

 

[Albert 888]

OK matt it is, I'm in a rush but rather it be right,will leave to dry naturally. Any specific trade paint, used crown before it was shocking. Is dulux matt any good as the ceilings are going to be white so It makes sense use the same.

[Yellow Bear]

I suggest you leave drying slow and gentle and thorough, don't overdo any heat source, the fact is people often don't have the time and need quicker results.

 

On normal domestic paints dilute 25-50%, on trade paints perhaps a bit more.

 

Make sure you use MATT emulsion and not satin.

 

Have fun!

 

and not vinyl

[Albert 888]

I'm in my element,that's my enjoyment - fun if you will. I'm asking about everything and doing my best to do it right this time,hence all the questions.

 

Cheers for the help pw members.

[foxshooter69]

First coat is called a mist coat should be mixed at a ratio of 2 parts paint to 1 part water, this should bet a contract Matt and NOT a vinyl Matt / soft sheen or silk and don't go for a cheap emulsion go for a trade quality paint it will make all the difference

[daz2202]

Let it dry naturally. Saves a lot of cracking later.

1st coat 70%water 30% Matt emulsion

2nd coat just emulsion

Then you should be ready for whatever you want as your finishing coat

[Albert 888]

OK screw fix do a contract no nonsense matt emulsion and they do a contract matt emulsion by Leyland, any preference.

[LondonLuke]

Super leytex in 15 litre tub is great if you need that quantity

[foxshooter69]

OK screw fix do a contract no nonsense matt emulsion and they do a contract matt emulsion by Leyland, any preference.

Out of those two Leyland

[Rst1990]

use a cheap emulsion for the mist coat, no point in using a expensive emulsion to water it down.

Nip down to b&q grab a own brand emulsion and a dulux,

You can buy a pre mixed paint that is ready to use on fresh plaster if you don't fancy mixing paint and water.

Atb

[harpoonlouis]

Just done a few rooms, used a big fan to circulate cold air to dry it off, 50 50 emulsion then painted with Valspar from B&Q almost entirely done with one coat and a bit a touching up, very impressed with the Valspar, didn't expect that.

[team tractor]

Just done a few rooms, used a big fan to circulate cold air to dry it off, 50 50 emulsion then painted with Valspar from B&Q almost entirely done with one coat and a bit a touching up, very impressed with the Valspar, didn't expect that.

Don't read the reviews then lol

[harpoonlouis]

Don't read the reviews then lol

Er why would I after I had used it? Change my mind because someone else told me what to think? Baaaa! Baaaa!

[team tractor]

Er why would I after I had used it? Change my mind because someone else told me what to think? Baaaa! Baaaa!

I went to use it and my dad said it was aweful 20 years ago so check reviews. 50 all bad lol.

[fielddweller]

I went to use it and my dad said it was aweful 20 years ago so check reviews. 50 all bad lol.

Agreed it wasn't regarded as very good in the trade 20 years ago but times change.Ive used it a few times now when the client has requested it and if applied correctly it's absolutely fine.

Back to the op ...use a contract emulsion,Leyland is fine for what you need and just follow the instructions for watering it down.(some of the figures above are mind boggling)

Stir it well and you will be fine.

Fielddweller

[NatureBoy]

Leyland Super leytex emulsion made for new plaster. Just ordering some more myself. Great stuff! Used it for many years! Get 15L Tubs add water till 2in from top and stir well. Get 9in woven polymeade long pile roller pile sleeves.

 

Minimum spray/splashing.Plus holds more paint than others.

 

9in roller frame, telescopic pole, 15L paint scuttle and away you go! Don't fill scuttle! Roughly 5L to start with. Do all you can on ceilings and walls with roller first! Cut in what you can't after.

 

Saves time,climbing, bending, stretching and edge build up. Plus plenty of practice for top coats.

 

Paint can be left covered in tubs you using over night. roller and brushes wrapped in carrier bags.

If ceilings going to be finished in white Leyland fine for this. Cheaper and may even cover in 2 coats if used neat on 2nd coat.

 

You could use it in white/ magnolia as finishing coat on walls to cut cost, as many new build estate houses are. Not as durable but does let new plaster breathe/dry properly.

 

For top job use Dulux Trade Vinyl matt for top coats on walls. Would still put about 10% water in. New plaster and Super Leytex / mist coats will be very absorbent still! Dulux Diamond matt or eggshell in kitchen/bathrooms if you want. More durable, more expensive but can wash /wipe it.

 

If selling or renting stick to neutral colours or good ol magnolia. Cheaper,makes rooms look bigger and easier to touch up.

 

Hopes this helps.

A first post on PW for me.

 

ATB Natureboy

[Marki]

My plasterer recommended Wickes emulsion for new plaster. Superb finish if you just want white or magnolia, goes on well with a roller without a load of mess. I'd not use anything else.

[seph234]

I have to disagree with the Wickes. i have used it (althought its been 3 years since i stopped using it so it could of changed) and the finish is bloody horrible. i stick to dulux trade now and have no problems with the finish.

[Marki]

I have to disagree with the Wickes. i have used it (althought its been 3 years since i stopped using it so it could of changed) and the finish is bloody horrible. i stick to dulux trade now and have no problems with the finish.

 

And I'll disagree with this. ;-) I used it last year to cover several newly plastered ceilings and a number of walls. Great finish and durability one year later and I'll happily post photos to show.That said, I have very little interest in peoples personal choice so do what you like.