TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 The Turkish Government are getting in on the act; http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f4247e08-e44e-11e5-a09b-1f8b0d268c39.html#axzz42F9rhUQB They will take back some refugees and stop others in return for payments and membership of the EU. It really is time for us to get out of this awful white elephant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besty57 Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Yes yes a thousand times yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjw4233 Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Turkey can have our membership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Monkey Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 The reason call me Dave wants the referendum so quick is he wants it done and dusted so that if we vote in (yeah right ) he can get the basket case that is Turkey into the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern01 Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 If Turkey join the EU they will flog passports and citizenship to every chancer from Africa and Asia who will then have the right to settle anywhere in Europe they want. It will be goodbye to the civilisation our forefathers fought and died for over the last two centuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbers Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 If Turkey join the EU they will flog passports and citizenship to every chancer from Africa and Asia who will then have the right to settle anywhere in Europe they want. It will be goodbye to the civilisation our forefathers fought and died for over the last two centuries. its like that just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Turkey can have our membership. A damned good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Little chance of them getting EU membership for the foreseeable future but it appears they may have secured funding of €3bn to help them with the refugee crisis - wow and I bet they will do nothing to stop boats heading for Greece! I gather they are also asking for visa-type ease of movement for their citizens on the basis refugees get this as soon as they hit the shores of Europe. A little bit of blackmail going on here?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simjakcal Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Turkey can have our membership. for free....where do they sign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 but it appears they may have secured funding of €3bn to help them with the refugee crisis I'm pretty sure the EU have offered an EXTRA 3bn on top of the money offered in November last year, so a total of 6bn Euro's. It's the tip of the iceberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 NOOOOOOOOO !!!!! Surely nobody could be THAT stupid - or could they??? now that really is scarey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 NOOOOOOOOO !!!!! Surely nobody could be THAT stupid - or could they??? now that really is scarey! Yep they can be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 It's what they're after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern01 Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) Fair haired people in Europe will be as rare as red squirrels in Barnsley Edited March 7, 2016 by fern01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Yep, but the upside is when they've took over it will end up like they have now, third world cess pit. Then where will they go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 The Turks seem to be blackmailing EU and doubtless pushing migrants towards Greece. I heard tonight Turks have cut off numbers easily and did this recently but to get their way are actively (supplying rubber boats and not policing shoreline) encouraging the huge numbers being seen this year. Is this why No10 have now sent 3 navy vessels to the Med? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 I was in Turkey the Christmas before last and what's happening to that country now is a tragedy. Over the past few years they have spent their way out of recession by investing in infrastructure. The coast road is relaid to take tourist coaches all along the Aegean. New roads link all the major towns as do brand new railways. Journeys that used to take five hours now take three hours. This country, after nearly 50 years, still can't get the A14 built right. Now, thanks to America, with help from us, destabilising the middle East to control the petro-dollar and bring about regime change, all that they've achieved will be going to hell in a hand-cart. We reap what we sow. Utterly shameful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 I was in Turkey the Christmas before last and what's happening to that country now is a tragedy. Over the past few years they have spent their way out of recession by investing in infrastructure. The coast road is relaid to take tourist coaches all along the Aegean. New roads link all the major towns as do brand new railways. Journeys that used to take five hours now take three hours. This country, after nearly 50 years, still can't get the A14 built right. Now, thanks to America, with help from us, destabilising the middle East to control the petro-dollar and bring about regime change, all that they've achieved will be going to hell in a hand-cart. We reap what we sow. Utterly shameful The real enemy is a lot closer to you than you think. Cesspit or not (have any of you actually been to Turkey ?) they didn't create this problem but are bearing the brunt of it, the least they can expect is money which should really come from the US but never mind. The question of their EU membership is entirely different but in their shoes you too would do everything to maximise your benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 The Turks seem to be blackmailing EU and doubtless pushing migrants towards Greece. I heard tonight Turks have cut off numbers easily and did this recently but to get their way are actively (supplying rubber boats and not policing shoreline) encouraging the huge numbers being seen this year. Is this why No10 have now sent 3 navy vessels to the Med? That is a good point. I've often wondered where all those people get their life jackets from? Its not like there would be many scuba and yachting outlets in Syria and Afghanistan is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 That is a good point. I've often wondered where all those people get their life jackets from? Its not like there would be many scuba and yachting outlets in Syria and Afghanistan is there? And it's surprising that they mostly claim to already have family in Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 As others have said , Turkey joining the Eu will make current problems pale into insignificance . Why on earth anyone thinks this is a good idea , and that our economy and culture is compatible to turkey must have rocks in the skull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 As others have said , Turkey joining the Eu will make current problems pale into insignificance . Why on earth anyone thinks this is a good idea , and that our economy and culture is compatible to turkey must have rocks in the skull. Ask Dave Rocky Cameron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Some businesses think it is a good idea as they can more easily tap into the cheap Turkish labour market. They are already investing in Turkish plants and factories, but EU membership would make things easier for them. You would be able to buy quality Turkish guns like Hatstands for even less than now. But a major stumbling block to Turkish membership is the relations with Cyprus. I can't see Cyprus and by default Greece accepting Turkey's application. Germany wouldn't be too keen either as there are already many Turks in de Farterland and that would attract more of their relatives to settle there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Some businesses think it is a good idea as they can more easily tap into the cheap Turkish labour market. They are already investing in Turkish plants and factories, but EU membership would make things easier for them. You would be able to buy quality Turkish guns like Hatstands for even less than now. But a major stumbling block to Turkish membership is the relations with Cyprus. I can't see Cyprus and by default Greece accepting Turkey's application. Germany wouldn't be too keen either as there are already many Turks in de Farterland and that would attract more of their relatives to settle there. Do they have a vito? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Do they have a vito? The Maastricht Treaty contained legislation entailing that any new membership applications have to be approved by each of the current member states amongst other criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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