oowee Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Without wishing to be pedantic, but SGC/FAC are certificates, not licenses. Legally quite different. Certificates or licences is good with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 I am with this if it was applied in principle to all licences. If its an important enhancement to safety surely it makes sense to apply it to driving licences. There is a similar and arguably much more burdensome process with driving licences, many issues and your doctor has to inform the dvla and effectively disqualify you from driving until further investigation or for various minimum times. This causes no end of issue where people drive for a living, or the evidence is tenuous, ie blood tests suggestive of innappropriate drinking. The big difference however is that if i tell you that you are medically disqualified from driving i can give you a good idea what the time frame will be and what will happen next, and when to expect your licence back. Your insurance may rocket but you will legally get back behind the wheel in a fairly predictable manner. Its not at the whims of your local police force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 When i have more spare time i shall try and write a short guide to the medical side of this issue. It is i suspect equally unwelcome on the medical side as the shooting side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Implemented in England and Wales. But it will be up in Scotland mid summer.theses changes are for the 10 year licence. I really don't think it's a bad thing. Is it just Scotland ? who are getting these ten year licences or all of us. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Ok with the reason of this system. Not ok with the security side of it at all. My neighbours don't know about the guns. Why should everyone in the NHS do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil w Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Is it just Scotland ? who are getting these ten year licences or all of us. ?[/quote] Of course Scotland England and Wales will be getting the 10 year licence /certificate. But Ireland will not. This is what's this is all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) My OH works in our local medical centre, she doesn't tell me anything, but admits some of the others 'talk'. I know most of the receptionists so they already know I own firearms. I know only a couple of the practices GP's and can't specify which one I want to see, and there are locums also, but none of them dealt with me when I went through my anxiety attacks over 20 years ago. When the police contact any of the GP's in my practice come renewal time, including those I've never met, they will only have my medical report to go by, and nothing else on which to base an opinion. I have no idea what's written on it. Edited March 25, 2016 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) A plod in Bridport was recently sacked for getting information from an inappropriate police database. There used to be a mouthy *** on this forum who was obviously getting PNC information from a local bobby. Now why was that *** out when the same word appears in a thread title? Edited March 25, 2016 by rjimmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Exactly. A couple of months ago I phoned the surgery asking for my Doc to phone me back regarding a mild ailment. A couple of days later I popped into a local shop and low and behold the assistant asked how my ailment was. Asking how on earth she knew, she calmly informed me that her cousin Susan was the receptionist and as they both knew me Susan thought her cousin would like to know. I'm now frightened stiff to seek advice about my erectile disfunction !! This would really **** me off, Family or not they should not be talking about it with anyone........I would have given "Susan" a warning that if it happened again I would be reporting her to the practice manager, It's not on! Before my mam died I was talking to our GP about her, Whilst I was in on another matter, he said he wasn't allowed to talk about her, We both knew she was dying, in fact me and my 2 sisters all knew she was dying, mam didn't (she was already in hospital, maybe she was in denial), but the doctor was right, it's private no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buze Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Other than that, all is well in privacy land. lets concentrate all the information into a database and give it to everyone (and their neighbours) that way it will simplify things a lot. Like, insurance companies will start factoring your medical records. Calculate the probability for you to have this and that; Oh and your bank will also known, the mortgage companies, and the companies you are trying to get a job from. In other words, that database will benefit everyone but *you*. Oh and and wait until hackers get access to it and dump it on the internet -- because, they WILL given how distributed the access will be... Edited March 26, 2016 by buze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Is it just Scotland ? who are getting these ten year licences or all of us. ? None of us if the EU unelected good for nothing MEPs get their way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmy1100 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) what happens if you never go to doctors ive never been for at least three years ,so he wouldnt know if i was suffering from anything if i didnt want him too.i dont think this is totally new as i was at doctors over 5 years ago for blood test and i saw computer screen and had big red block with firearms holder on it so that was clearly flagging me then. Edited March 26, 2016 by remmy1100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Do`nt see a problem with this myself. I do it will could people seeking medical help for depression etc. One good thing it does not apply in this part of the UK. The new system does not apply to Northern Ireland which has separate firearms legislation and processes. Edited March 26, 2016 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil w Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 I think more than half of the post's on this thread, if you had an appointment with your GP. You would be diagnosed with paranoia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buze Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Sure! Just a single, little example of what's going to happend. Here only 16 millions people medical records were shifted to India, because well... greed you know. http://sakshipost.com/index.php/news/international/77667-us-contractor-fined-$3-1mn-for-outsourcing-work-to-india.html Edited March 26, 2016 by buze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) I think more than half of the post's on this thread, if you had an appointment with your GP. You would be diagnosed with paranoia. Why. ? Of course Scotland England and Wales will be getting the 10 year licence /certificate. But Ireland will not. This is what's this is all about. What makes you say (Ireland) will not, PS are you talking about Northern Ireland or the Republic of Ireland boh have different firearms laws. Edited March 26, 2016 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil w Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Why. ? No worries for you as you're not in the new measures that is going to be imposed. The luck of the Irish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Here's how UK Shooting News sees it:https://ukshootingnews.wordpress.com/2016/03/26/shooters-will-have-to-pay-for-police-medical-reports-from-april/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Several years back I was signed off work by my doctor for 'situational stress' after a fatal incident at work.This has been declared several times through renewal and variation's and discussed on two or three occasions,does this now allow them another go at putting another obstacle in front of me and at my cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Several years back I was signed off work by my doctor for 'situational stress' after a fatal incident at work.This has been declared several times through renewal and variation's and discussed on two or three occasions,does this now allow them another go at putting another obstacle in front of me and at my cost. Yes, but as you've already been through the licensing process since, I think it highly unlikely it will effect you. I'm pinning my hopes on similar logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 what ever will they think up next,makes you think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 what happens if your on medication for blood pressure or any other problem and the side effects are anxiety depression etc ( even though you dont get these side effects yourself ) ,will this affect your licence (fac or shotgun)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil w Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Why. ? What makes you say (Ireland) will not, PS are you talking about Northern Ireland or the Republic of Ireland boh have different firearms laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 what happens if your on medication for blood pressure or any other problem and the side effects are anxiety depression etc ( even though you dont get these side effects yourself ) ,will this affect your licence (fac or shotgun)? If the drug does not give you those side effects then you are not suffering from them and it will not come into the equation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) I do feel uncomfortable yet more people can see that i am a gun owner, more links in a chain more chances of a fail. Edited March 27, 2016 by TONY R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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