Camerons dad and his off shore tax haven

[keg]

Dunno! But Mrs Cameron apparantly comes from a very wealthy landowning family, but I guess times must be hard as she needs UK tax payers to bankroll her (unsuccessful) vanity project!

I would though....

[panoma1]

Dunno what happened there? But rather than editing my post it reposted it here!!!!??

Edited April 9, 2016 by panoma1

[JRDS]

Does anyone actually believe his only offshore dealings totalled 30k worth of shares!!

[panoma1]

I would though....

 

Is that something to do with her having a pulse?

Does anyone actually believe his only offshore dealings totalled 30k worth of shares!!

Well his tax return will certainly say so! Lol

[JRDS]

Is that something to do with her having a pulse?

 

Well his tax return will certainly say so! Lol

 

Which one, the one on his declared dealings. After his treatment of Jimmy Carr he should go without a doubt.

[12gauge82]

If everyone paid their proper taxes we wouldn't have to join a company pension scheme, if you didn't choose to! And this country could afford to pay a good living state pension to ordinary people on retitement, not the pathetic under £130 per week some pensioners currently get to live on! And people would be able to retire if they chose to at an age where they were still young enough to enjoy a reasonably long, good quality of life? We can't presently because of tax evading/avoiding parasites!.......................the rich and powerful would still have their non contributory gold plated company pensions and golden handshakes when they retired to keep them in the manner to which they have become accustomed!

 

There's a big difference between an ordinary joe paying into a company pension to provide security in retirement without knowledge or choice as to where that money is invested when that is the only option! and some rich and powerful parasite salting money away into an offshore account to deliberately avoid paying tax or deliberately with full knowledge investing in unethical foreign companies profiting from the misery of others.

This sums it up for me, we don't live in a democracy, money is power and will continue to be for the foreseeable future I should imagine.

[keg]

Is that something to do with her having a pulse?

 

Well his tax return will certainly say so! Lol

Blast , you know me, no pulse needed, just warm, being old fat and bald is a great contraceptive!

 

I hope my Mrs of 22 years never joins

[keg]

Does anyone actually believe his only offshore dealings totalled 30k worth of shares!!

I don't care, it's legal. Bigger things to worry about.

[UKPoacher]

I don't care, it's legal. Bigger things to worry about.

I wouldn't care normally. But he slagged off Jimmy Carr and others for doing exactly the same thing. Obviously he never expected it to become known that he was also avoiding tax in the same way. That makes him a total hypocrite and if he were a decent man he would resign.

[keg]

If he has generally been avoiding tax then yes, I would agree that he is a total hypocrite.

 

I am married to a chartered accountant and have yet to discuss this with her, but I am not sure if what Cameron senior did Was the same as the strategies that Jimmy Carr and others including Gary Barlow have used in the past.

 

Offshore Is not always the dirty money that people seem to think and once DC takes his income from whatever was set up he would pay tax on that income.

 

Not enough details.

[SNS]

I wouldn't care normally. But he slagged off Jimmy Carr and others for doing exactly the same thing. Obviously he never expected it to become known that he was also avoiding tax in the same way. That makes him a total hypocrite and if he were a decent man he would resign.

I wouldn't care normally. But he slagged off Jimmy Carr and others for doing exactly the same thing. Obviously he never expected it to become known that he was also avoiding tax in the same way. That makes him a total hypocrite and if he were a decent man he would resign.

Read the interview with Robert Preston. He paid tax in the UK on the income he received. No CGT on the gain as was within his annual allowance. Absolutely 100% nothing like Jimmy Carr nor Gary Barlow.

 

And to be clear, I'm no DC fan, just an industry professional who thinks it's better to deal with the actual facts rather than political opinion

[keg]

Thank you SNS.

 

SWMBO is an industry professional as well, I've just not have time to talk to her to get the full facts. Likewise I'm not a DC fan. He's been a disappointment in many ways but the hysteria is almost like the witch trials of Salem.

[Gordon R]

David Cameron showed a complete lack of judgement when he went after Jimmy Carr.

 

99.9% of the electorate are not financial industry professionals. Whatever the differences in the various schemes, he should have realised that Joe Public - assisted by a hostile press - would not differentiate between them.

 

Sadly, I believe the hysteria - and it is getting that way - is almost entirely of his own making.

[Laird Lugton]

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/david-cameron-is-guilty-of-bad-spin-and-nothing-more/

 

Sums it up really.

[grrclark]

So much of this press is just fuel for the indignant.

 

A newspaper headline of "man invests money, man achieves return on investment, man pays taxes due" just wouldn't sell copy.

[keg]

David Cameron showed a complete lack of judgement when he went after Jimmy Carr.

 

99.9% of the electorate are not financial industry professionals. Whatever the differences in the various schemes, he should have realised that Joe Public - assisted by a hostile press - would not differentiate between them.

 

Sadly, I believe the hysteria - and it is getting that way - is almost entirely of his own making.

They are two different schemes but agree that 99% of Joe public will believe whatever fodder they are fed with

[scolopax]

Turns out D Cameron does not earn a great deal. Makes you wonder why an intelligent, well connected, man would ever go into politics.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36007718

Edited April 10, 2016 by scolopax

[Mungler]

I was trying to find that BBC clip where Naga Munchetty was trying to get a tax expert to put the boot in on Cameron's father's off shore scheme. It was brilliant she didn't get any of the answers she was looking for. I liked the tax expert, he was so under whelmed it helped put it all into perspective.

 

I've had plenty of tax chats on here before with KW - the arguments all follow the same path and that is that most people do pay a chunk of tax and if they could legitimately pay less then they would (and if they could afford them, their professional tax advisers would be negligent if they didn't find their clients the best mechanism to legally achieve that) and so everything then falls onto the 'moral' duty to seemingly pay as much tax as you can possibly afford to pay - that however is socialism.

[norfolk dumpling]

Having looked at the BBC article I must say I was hoping for DC's tax returns to be a lot more exciting. I bet Townie Blair's were. Perhaps this is the end of this thread?

[SDP290GD-Marcus]

Ah haint read most of these posts, but the one key difference between J Carr and D Cameron is their declared political stances (JC not more than a little left wing in his posturing\?)

Ergo JC should NOT feel free to avail of tax "dodges"

iF HE "TALKS THE TALK, HE SHOULD WALK THE WALK"

Whereas D C has every entitlement to do so, merely "doing what it says on the tin", as a true-blue Tory.

 

i.e. surely JC is a hypocrite and DC is not?

 

From long since forming the opinion that stand-up comics generally make a shed load of money, and sometimes employ shrewd accountants to protect wealth, by slagging off the rich to the self-precieved poor.

There being many more self-precived poor, (than there are "rich") this is a fool-proof stratgem, however hypocritical.

marcus

Edited April 10, 2016 by SDP290GD-Marcus

[SNS]

Having looked at the BBC article I must say I was hoping for DC's tax returns to be a lot more exciting. I bet Townie Blair's were. Perhaps this is the end of this thread?

Nah someone will be along shortly indignant that he has saved Inheritance Tax on the cash his mum gave him !

[Chris Bb]

Sadly, I believe the hysteria - and it is getting that way - is almost entirely of his own making.

 

A good way of "burying" news he'd rather not have discussed.

 

Like 27 million biased political pamphlets being posted as we speak..........................

 

[Jaymo]

Read the interview with Robert Preston. He paid tax in the UK on the income he received. No CGT on the gain as was within his annual allowance. Absolutely 100% nothing like Jimmy Carr nor Gary Barlow.

And to be clear, I'm no DC fan, just an industry professional who thinks it's better to deal with the actual facts rather than political opinion

 

 

Hallelujah

Informed opinion and not 'Witch Hunting'

[SNS]

David Cameron showed a complete lack of judgement when he went after Jimmy Carr.

 

Really ? But Jimmy Carr was avoiding tax. Unlike DC. Yet many on here want to go after DC ?

 

99.9% of the electorate are not financial industry professionals. Whatever the differences in the various schemes, he should have realised that Joe Public - assisted by a hostile press - would not differentiate between them.

 

How many more times can I spell this out ? DC received income from a unit trust. And paid UK income tax on it. There is no scheme.

 

Sadly, I believe the hysteria -

 

What, even after real facts are given to you very simply ?

 

 

and it is getting that way - is almost entirely of his own making.

[MrM]

I wouldn't care normally. But he slagged off Jimmy Carr and others for doing exactly the same thing. Obviously he never expected it to become known that he was also avoiding tax in the same way. That makes him a total hypocrite and if he were a decent man he would resign.

 

Try looking at some facts first! JC joined a scheme based in Jersey that was primarily designed to avoid tax. DC's father didn't so no similarity at all.

Edited April 10, 2016 by MrM