winnie&bezza Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Afternoon all. Been doing privates work through word of mouth but decided to have some cards made up a coupe of months back. Put some up my sisters farm shop and she said a few people have took them and the lady from a rather nice large country house must be a million (I know the house as its near me) took one. A week after my sister said I get a phone call from said lady asking if I can come and have a look. So a couple of days later I go round and she shows me what she wants done. This includes 3 doors to have bottom cut due to rubbing of new carpet, they've had work done recently to make an upstairs room with skeilings and the chippies have put 2 3ftx4ft MDF doors to create cupboards and they've made a hash of them and she wants them done again, outside gate has two t&g panels and one had bowed and pushed out like a v and you can see people have mastic and Bodged it and I said I'll replace the top half t&g and then a log store about 3.0x1.5x1.5 with 2 front post concreted in ground and then that fibre pitch corrugated sheets on top. I quoted £130 for internal work and £280 for external work not including materials. I think a fair price. Now 5 days later she texts saying thanks you for your time but my husband is getting out coy man to carry work out. My workmate and I were thinking what's a coy man? So I politely text her back saying no problem about Work but out of total interest what's a coy man. She replied the man who does work round our offices in London. We both thought for someone with money surely my price wouldn't be a lot but it just shows you what people can be like. I'd rather have someone who knows what they are doing than an odd jobber or maybe I'm doing him an injustice. So who else has heard of a coy man and what does it stand for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin55 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Perhaps co'y short for company, so a company employee or contractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny tim Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 the more money they have the tighter they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Perhaps co'y short for company, so a company employee or contractor Oh yeah your probably right there. Quite obvious really. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 the more money they have the tighter they are It certainly seems that way. If I had money though I'd rather have a quality done. But then again they don't really know I would do one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxphil Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Shame your not round this way as with those prices i'd have got you to do some worktops for Me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Shame your not round this way as with those prices i'd have got you to do some worktops for Me Yes mate i would of done. I wanted that job as I thought it would of been a good contact and for recommendations and kept prices reasonable. Even though i knew i could of probably done them in 2 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 probably a diddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I think that's all a fair price. I'll just add tho remember you have no insurance I assume? it might put them off having no public liability;) The common problem with t&g gates is they just don't leave enough gap as you'll know and normal boards only have a 6mm tongue . We use loose tongues with 20mm insert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 That's why I packed up doing stained glass and leaded lights. People just didn't want to pay the money it really cost for such labour intensive work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 I think that's all a fair price. I'll just add tho remember you have no insurance I assume? it might put them off having no public liability;) The common problem with t&g gates is they just don't leave enough gap as you'll know and normal boards only have a 6mm tongue . We use loose tongues with 20mm insert. So did I TT. No I don't have any actually and maybe I should look into it. But she wounding of known really I suppose. No they bloody don't and as you say. A loose tongue that isn't tight works out a lot better. A joiner we used to use made some cubed top frames with t&g panels and he used t&g with this buffer system that allows it to move. Only seen that the once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 (edited) When I made a gate I cut slots in both edges of the board and used a thin strip in place of a tongue,worked for me. If they're that tight your best not doing the work for them,it would be can you this and that work after you start but all in the same price. Edited April 20, 2016 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 the more money they have the tighter they are Oh how true! I know a young lad (27) with cash of about 1.3 million and knowing he has a fortune of 4-5 million to tide him for the rest of his life. Still as tight as a ducks ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 I think you're all missing the practicalities of the situation - sounds like the company will be getting the invoice or the job added to a company account one way or another. As for the pricing quoted - seems fair to me, but I suspect it wasn't the actual price per se that formed the basis of the decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Agree on both figgy. That's crazy dodeer, what's the point of having it. You could well be right there mungler. I should of also said that when I went round there she said to me that her Husband wants me to ask you if I'm interested in doing some work at their offices in charlton which is about 35-40 mins from me. I said what does it entail and she said making some units into smaller rooms etc. Now I said I'm employed during week and only can do weekends so it might be too much for me and might take longer than you want. So this coy man obviously couldn't handle that. In my head I just thought the fella has gone to work and said to this coy man what I've charged and asked if he would be interested and at a cheaper price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 I would wager it's what Mungler said. I know a lot of people whose houses or cars are 'maintained' by their company. All legit of course 😉 I don't run my own company but I suspect it is fairly easy to 'wash' the odd transaction through the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Down here a coy man operated a coy pond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 I would wager it's what Mungler said. I know a lot of people whose houses or cars are 'maintained' by their company. All legit of course 😉 I don't run my own company but I suspect it is fairly easy to 'wash' the odd transaction through the books. Yeah probably and I think (certain) my boss puts materials for his own house on other jobs. Down here a coy man operated a coy pond. When me and my workmate were trying to work out what a coy man is her said unless they have a koi pond and he's doing it and she doesn't know how to spell it ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 D'Coy pond, as in Coy Pond Road in Bournemouth. Different regions shorten words in different ways. I read, on here, people referring to Deeks, down here they would have been D'coys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLuke Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 D'Coy pond, as in Coy Pond Road in Bournemouth. Different regions shorten words in different ways. I read, on here, people referring to Deeks, down here they would have been D'coys. Weirdly I spent some of my childhood stood on a bridge next to that road playing poo sticks...small world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 If you are not getting some of your prices rejected you are too cheap. its about getting the right balance, but you are never going to win them all, there is always going to be somebody cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 D'Coy pond, as in Coy Pond Road in Bournemouth. Different regions shorten words in different ways. I read, on here, people referring to Deeks, down here they would have been D'coys. Oh right haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 If you are not getting some of your prices rejected you are too cheap. its about getting the right balance, but you are never going to win them all, there is always going to be somebody cheaper Of course and I like to earn a good amount on weekends if I can. No you will never win them all and I'm grateful to get any job, but it's when you see people with money worry about £100 or so and get I presume someone who isn't as knowledgable to carry out the work as its cheap baffles me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 I tell people they can get a job done right, they can get a job done cheap, but if they get a job done right cheap, prepare for problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 If you are not getting some of your prices rejected you are too cheap. its about getting the right balance, but you are never going to win them all, there is always going to be somebody cheaper It amazes me that I'm £40 an hour in the workshop but I can do in an hour what a carpenter takes 3-4 hours on average. People moan but pay a garage £100 an hour and think nothing of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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