mel b3 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Why not join Roundtable or Rotary then? (Serious question) Im guessing for many different reasons , probably the most common is because your friends or family are members and they ask you to join because you have the right qualities. Im a member of r.a.o.b , I was invited to join by a couple of mates, probably because I liked drinking and having a laugh and im always willing to help another person in need. Beer! Thats the real reason but I was far too polite to say that :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I remember that there was a contracts manager who was in the mob and he had a sort of little book thingy that he used to keep it the door pocket of his car. Folded over the front cover was a £20 note, which was an amount back when. He was a bit of a speed merchant to get to the next meeting and if he got pulled up for speeding he would sort of drop this book out on the ground in view and ignore the fact. Plod would advise him and he would ask if they could pick it up for him as he had a bad back. Plod would oblige and notice the fact that it was a mob member and hand it back upon which the £20 note would be dropped on the ground. Plod would advise member of this and member would say that it wasn't his and that plod should put it in the biscuit fund. Plod would tell the member to be careful and to slow down a bit. Job done. He did this and got away with it several times to my knowledge. Charity begins at the biscuit barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longspoon Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Why not join Roundtable or Rotary then? (Serious question) Why not ? why do people join any organisation, pigeon watch included, like minded souls...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmcg Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 The Grand Lodge of England and The Grand Lodge of Scotland have website which give a lot of information about masonry, both easily found by a quick google. I've never understood the "secret society" label. Lodges all publish dates and times of their meetings and usually tell you what's on in the local papers, what's secret about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 its just an excuse to meet up with like minded people and have the craic and raise a bit of money for good causes , quite similar to the pw charity shoot. Surely indoor clay shooting is dangerous . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I think some folk have watched Eyes Wide Shut and have let their imaginations run riot..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) there really is some rubbish spouted about free masonry haha . right .......... point one stop guessing what we do behind closed doors , ( never in a million yrs will you ever find out haha ) so your just have to keep watching your copy of the davinchy code . free masonry is NOT a drinking club ( if only ) free masonry is about ( for the want of a better word ) charity and morality , we teach and learn a system of morality within our own ranks . another thing , there is lots of rubbish about how we are corrupt and " dodgy " yes I have no doubt that there are certain people that maybe be like that , I don't really know as I can put my hand on my heart and say I have never come across any , also I would like to point out that if ANY mason is caught doing ANYTHING " dodgy " or that could in some way bring the order into disrepute THEY WILL BE IN THE POO UPTO THER NECKS ! and that would be the end of there mason days , that's for sure . ( its in the rules !) as for the rotary club ......... its in the name , its a club . yes they do a lot of good which is great , but its a club . masonry is a way of life , your taught to live to a moral code , which can be very deep and spiritual . same as the R.A.O.B ( the buffs ) haha I too am a buff , now that is a drinking boy club haha I have had some of the funniest nights ever at buff lodges , but again this really is NOTHING like masonry . Edited April 24, 2016 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 there really is some rubbish spouted about free masonry haha . right .......... point one stop guessing what we do behind closed doors , ( never in a million yrs will you ever find out haha ) so your just have to keep watching your copy of the davinchy code . free masonry is NOT a drinking club ( if only ) free masonry is about ( for the want of a better word ) charity and morality , we teach and learn a system of morality within our own ranks . another thing , there is lots of rubbish about how we are corrupt and " dodgy " yes I have no doubt that there are certain people that maybe be like that , I don't really know as I can put my hand on my heart and say I have never come across any , also I would like to point out that if ANY mason is caught doing ANYTHING " dodgy " or that could in some way bring the order into disrepute THEY WILL BE IN THE POO UPTO THER NECKS ! and that would be the end of there mason days , that's for sure . ( its in the rules !) as for the rotary club ......... its in the name , its a club . yes they do a lot of good which is great , but its a club . masonry is a way of life , your taught to live to a moral code , which can be very deep and spiritual . same as the R.A.O.B ( the buffs ) haha I too am a buff , now that is a drinking boy club haha I have had some of the funniest nights ever at buff lodges , but again this really is NOTHING like masonry . I had you down as dodgy anyway -- free mason or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 there really is some rubbish spouted about free masonry haha . right .......... point one stop guessing what we do behind closed doors , ( never in a million yrs will you ever find out haha ) You reckon ? so your just have to keep watching your copy of the davinchy code . free masonry is NOT a drinking club ( if only ) free masonry is about ( for the want of a better word ) charity and morality , we teach and learn a system of morality within our own ranks . another thing , there is lots of rubbish about how we are corrupt and " dodgy " yes I have no doubt that there are certain people that maybe be like that , I don't really know as I can put my hand on my heart and say I have never come across any , also I would like to point out that if ANY mason is caught doing ANYTHING " dodgy " or that could in some way bring the order into disrepute THEY WILL BE IN THE POO UPTO THER NECKS ! and that would be the end of there mason days , that's for sure . ( its in the rules !) Don't think that's followed at all lodges! as for the rotary club ......... its in the name , its a club . yes they do a lot of good which is great , but its a club . masonry is a way of life , your taught to live to a moral code , It doesn't always work ! which can be very deep and spiritual . same as the R.A.O.B ( the buffs ) haha I too am a buff , now that is a drinking boy club haha I have had some of the funniest nights ever at buff lodges , but again this really is NOTHING like masonry . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 there really is some rubbish spouted about free masonry haha . right .......... point one stop guessing what we do behind closed doors , ( never in a million yrs will you ever find out haha ) You reckon ? so your just have to keep watching your copy of the davinchy code . free masonry is NOT a drinking club ( if only ) free masonry is about ( for the want of a better word ) charity and morality , we teach and learn a system of morality within our own ranks . another thing , there is lots of rubbish about how we are corrupt and " dodgy " yes I have no doubt that there are certain people that maybe be like that , I don't really know as I can put my hand on my heart and say I have never come across any , also I would like to point out that if ANY mason is caught doing ANYTHING " dodgy " or that could in some way bring the order into disrepute THEY WILL BE IN THE POO UPTO THER NECKS ! and that would be the end of there mason days , that's for sure . ( its in the rules !) Don't think that's followed at all lodges! as for the rotary club ......... its in the name , its a club . yes they do a lot of good which is great , but its a club . masonry is a way of life , your taught to live to a moral code , It doesn't always work ! which can be very deep and spiritual . same as the R.A.O.B ( the buffs ) haha I too am a buff , now that is a drinking boy club haha I have had some of the funniest nights ever at buff lodges , but again this really is NOTHING like masonry . see , no matter what we do , you will always thing were upto no good haha . right I got to go as I have three virgins to wash ( they took some finding I can tell ya ) , one goat to saddle up for our next meet in the woods at 1 min past midnight on the next full moon . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I had you down as dodgy anyway -- free mason or not haha watch your step adi of I will have to set the provincial goat on you !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 see , no matter what we do , you will always thing were upto no good haha . right I got to go as I have three virgins to wash ( they took some finding I can tell ya ) , one goat to saddle up for our next meet in the woods at 1 min past midnight on the next full moon . I just know someone very well who's in a lodge. Not saying all lodges are the same but this chap (and his buddys) although nice enough blokes are not exactly fine upstanding citizens with high morals. He (they?) would do anything for money (well, within reason) and I do know there's been deals done in there because I've been privvy to conversations out on site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seph234 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I too joined because i wanted to find out what its all about, instead of reading all the carp on the internet. I like it because it has very old fashioned values which i think we need to try and keep in this country. i like the social side too. and in the lodge itself, it has encouraged me to speak in front of many people which for me i really wasn't any good at. plus all the other bits that have already been mentioned. so in all i think it has made me a better person who has more respect for people and the world around me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I too joined because i wanted to find out what its all about, instead of reading all the carp on the internet. I like it because it has very old fashioned values which i think we need to try and keep in this country. i like the social side too. and in the lodge itself, it has encouraged me to speak in front of many people which for me i really wasn't any good at. plus all the other bits that have already been mentioned. so in all i think it has made me a better person who has more respect for people and the world around me. well said ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Seems not all lodges are the same then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) Seems not all lodges are the same then ? but everything you say goes on at your mate lodge is nothing more than hearsay , maybe your mate is beefing it up a tad to make it sound more than it is . sounds to me hes just trying to impress you with a bit of Shock & Oar . ( Ohh don't mess with us , the mighty masons ) Edited April 24, 2016 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 but everything you say goes on at your mate lodge is nothing more than hearsay , maybe your mate is beefing it up a tad to make it sound more than it is . sounds to me hes just trying to impress you with a bit of Shock & Oar . ( Ohh don't mess with us , the mighty masons ) No, don't think so as I've been involved with it outside the lodge. I've dealt with the other folk in the dealings so has to be true, I've carried on with it once deals were set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) No, don't think so as I've been involved with it outside the lodge. I've dealt with the other folk in the dealings so has to be true, I've carried on with it once deals were set up. were they illegal deals ? Edited April 24, 2016 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Not as such, just sort of bypassed normal procedure and prospective suppliers. We knew what was happening from start to finish. Anything illegal I would have kept well out of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Not as such, just sort of bypassed normal procedure and prospective suppliers. We knew what was happening from start to finish. Anything illegal I would have kept well out of. without knowing facts its very easy for me to form the wrong opinion or should I say right or wrong , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) Not very moral though is it ? Not exactly crimes of the century but still fairly large contracts. It's something any company would like to have done, it just so happened it's the Masons that facilitated it. Two brothers get together, deal sorted But isn't this what the Masons were renowned for, I suppose things just carry on as before. Edited April 24, 2016 by rodp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Not very moral though is it ? Not exactly crimes of the century but still fairly large contracts. It's something any company would like to have done, it just so happened it's the Masons that facilitated it. Two brothers get together, deal sorted But isn't this what the Masons were renowned for, I suppose things just carry on as before. ahhhh now you never said they were brothers , that sort of changes everything , would you not help your brother out !! yes of course you would . nothing more than conspiracy theories yet again . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuddster Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 all this mentioning of back scratching and deals between masons is cobblers. exactly the same stuff occurs at every golf club,rotary,motor club etc. people help each other out when they are connected. f. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 ahhhh now you never said they were brothers , that sort of changes everything , would you not help your brother out !! yes of course you would . nothing more than conspiracy theories yet again . No, not brothers from the same parents, brothers in arms, both masons, not related at all (not even mates really) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 all this mentioning of back scratching and deals between masons is cobblers. exactly the same stuff occurs at every golf club,rotary,motor club etc. people help each other out when they are connected. f. Totally correct. Don't let that get in the way of a good story though. Must dash off to plan the new world order ( or stack the dishwasher more likely). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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