parapilot Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Took a new semi auto shotgun out for a test fire last night, and in a box of 25 had 2 misfires, light primer strike. Could this be the gun / firing pin just needing wearing in, or do you think it's an issue with gun? Cheers J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesP Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 A new gun shouldn't need it's firing pin "worn in". I would suggest you take it back. What make and model is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Could be the gun or cartridges. Can't be certain - might be the light/shine - but the profile of that cartridge head looks a tad iffy - is the primer/anvil recessed? What make are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 What were the strikes like on the other carts? I've had this with Eley Fourlongs which must be a cartridge problem as fired carts have a good solid strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Compare the cartridges. Put a straight edge across the top surface. Sorry to say that cartridge does not look like a quality build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parapilot Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 They are cheep carts, but when placed back into the gun they fired fine the second time. And the strike marks were strong. As if the pins getting caught? Between us we fired a few hundred of the same carts and no issues in other guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Time to drop the guns action mechanism and take a look. It might just be a broken pin or piece or she it somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Might be some grease/clag/wax stuck behind the striker shoulder/stop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Take it straight back without firing any more cartridges, not a safe scenario for them to go on second strike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 take the gun back for a check/strip/clean and ask them to double check if any swarf if knocking about around the firing pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 have seen this before when the bolt is closed softly and does not lock in fully so let the bolt slam home and it should be ok will get better after a bit of use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 If the head is rounded as yours looks in the picture could that possibly stop the bolt locking fully forward ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDS Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Is it a Benelli ?...if so it could be the infamous " Benelli click" , Copied from another forum " The "Benelli Click" is when the bolt accidently comes out of battery and the trigger is pulled. The hammer strikes the back of the bolt body and not the firing pin. The result is a gun that does not fire, but makes a noise when the hammer hits the bolt body and the magazine release is set off and a shell is released (If rounds in the magazine).It can happen to other brands and designs, but is most common in Inertia opearted models with a rotary bolt face " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a303 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 What gun? As above benellis can do that when bolt doesn't lock fully forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davids3511 Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 I bet the guns fine and it's dodgy cartridges. I had 500 of these and they are ****. To be fair the guy selling them did tell me they weren't the best but I though if they go bang, what can go wrong. The problem was some only went half bang with a really strange sound. Clays were missed and the inside of the barrell was littered with debris. Not enough to block the barrell but unusually bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Are they Russian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 They are cheep carts, but when placed back into the gun they fired fine the second time. And the strike marks were strong. As if the pins getting caught? Between us we fired a few hundred of the same carts and no issues in other guns. You may still be getting a very light strike - if the cartridge actually fires the recoil/pressure sets the cartridge back and the pin indent appear normal. I would pull two or three of those cartridges apart and try them with just the primer, you may find they are all very light strikes (This could be the cartridge or the gun0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Always give a new gun a good strip and clean with degreaser then relube and reassemble. It should then work fine if not try other makes of carts if still not right then take it back to shop. Most new semi auto gun problems are down to not stripping and cleaning the preservation grease from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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