Davyo Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 You say need do you need your firearms. ? As for who needs a (assault rifle capable of firing 45-60 rounds a minute with 100 bullet magazine) few need one but might like one for sporting purposes i know i would . Who needs a semi / auto .22, a shotgun with a large mag cap, etc. Sorry, for what purposes would you need a gun that is capable of firing 45-60 per minute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 That's a bit rough on Afghanistan, how about Croydon? Oh come on when that bull**** bomb explodes it will fertilise acres of fields! Croydon does not have that many fields! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Sorry, for what purposes would you need a gun that is capable of firing 45-60 per minute? I can't think of a reason for me personally wanting one, but if you are going to allow them at least have some form of control. I mean how mad can it be that someone too dangerous to be allowed to fly is allowed freedom to purchase firearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Lets hope we never ever see these kind of weapons(yes weapons!!!! lets not call them guns or rifles like that fat American ***** tried to justify) in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 That's a bit rough on Afghanistan, how about Croydon? No good, Croyden has some nice hotels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) Sorry, for what purposes would you need a gun that is capable of firing 45-60 per minute? For what purposes would you need a .22 semi/ auto with a 30 round mag that can easily fire 45-60 per minute ruger 10/22. A military rifle capable of killing at 1000 meters with a 10 round mag ( lee enfield rifle), handgun with a 18 round mag etc etc. ? Edited June 21, 2016 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Sorry, for what purposes would you need a gun that is capable of firing 45-60 per minute? No 'need' at all that I can think of, anymore than the 'need' any of us have for owning ours. They have them in America because they are allowed them by law, as we are allowed the firearms we have by law. I'm a great believer in freedom of choice for law abiding people and rightly or wrongly also a firm believer that when a state is armed its populace shouldn't be denied the choice either. It is an American lifestyle choice, very similar to the choice they have in Canada and several other countries, which for whatever reason, don't appear to be having the problems the Americans are. When you can figure out why, you may have taken the first step someway to solving the problem. The problem isn't 'assault' type weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remimax Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) Lets hope we never ever see these kind of weapons(yes weapons!!!! lets not call them guns or rifles like that fat American ***** tried to justify) in the UKthink you missed the bit "again" in your post. Edited June 21, 2016 by Remimax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Lets hope we never ever see these kind of weapons(yes weapons!!!! lets not call them guns or rifles like that fat American ***** tried to justify) in the UK Call them what you want i would call them firearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 If you can find me an article, or video, of Piers Morgan advocating for increased gun control in the UK, I will be interested to see it. I don't believe he is even "anti gun" for the USA, he just states there should be "gun control", something I have no argument with. He even cites the UK as a fine example efficient "gun control" through effective licensing. "He is one of the biggest dangers to Our sport to be seen in our life times", I don't think so. I dont have an personal CNN archive on this phone or any idea how to get any of his shows online, but at the time they were available, The time being Around 2014 round the time CNN got rid of his stupid show tonight and shed him completely a few months after. I know he is an out and out anti and anti gun to boot. It was well debated and publicised in the states at the time, and any one who wants to see and is not jaded by similar agendas to Morgan himself should even without too much effort be able to see his agenda for themselves. The guy is a cretin, he is anti gun anti hunting if you chose to accept this or not sir is your prerogative but that is all but not a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1440 Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 I took Morgans reaction of exasperation to be result of the basis of the American guys argument rather than any anti gun stance in the interview. What worried me was the comprisons being made with AR15s and shotguns which was rediculous to defend their unrestricted use. My reaction to that nonsense was the same as Piers. Anti gun..or not. The concern is how many people sat at nome with no interest in shooting sports believed that ****. My thoughts are that the uk gun laws are about right. Althpugh I do think the law on dedicated small bore target pistols could be relaxed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) I took Morgans reaction of exasperation to be result of the basis of the American guys argument rather than any anti gun stance in the interview. What worried me was the comprisons being made with AR15s and shotguns which was rediculous to defend their unrestricted use. My reaction to that nonsense was the same as Piers. Anti gun..or not. The concern is how many people sat at nome with no interest in shooting sports believed that ****. My thoughts are that the uk gun laws are about right. Althpugh I do think the law on dedicated small bore target pistols could be relaxed. That made me LOL when the idiot held up the sg cartridge,thats when Morgan won Edited June 21, 2016 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRYAN3 Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Call them what you want i would call them firearms. If I am ever faced with an idiot with an illegal Ak47,or anything for that matter trying to harm me- I would like to think I would be carrying an AR 15 or similar. I won't be though,will I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1440 Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) If I am ever faced with an idiot with an illegal Ak47,or anything for that matter trying to harm me- I would like to think I would be carrying an AR 15 or similar. I won't be though,will I. But the AK47 be a bit more difficult to get hold of and I guess require alot more money than showing up at a local dealer discout store producing your driving licence. Edited June 21, 2016 by Paul1440 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) Davyo Do you just ask questions and not answer questions put to you. ? Davyo, on 21 Jun 2016 - 9:26 PM, said: Sorry, for what purposes would you need a gun that is capable of firing 45-60 per minute? For what purposes would you need a .22 semi/ auto with a 30 round mag that can easily fire 45-60 per minute ruger 10/22. A military rifle capable of killing at 1000 meters with a 10 round mag ( lee enfield rifle), handgun with a 18 round mag etc etc. ? Edited June 21, 2016 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) One of the reasons the Americans are allowed the right to bear arms is due to the fact that some of their wildlife views humans as a tasty snack, so when you are faced with a grizzly bear on your trip from the cabin to the outside lav, you have something a bit better than the newspaper to dissuade it! Edited June 21, 2016 by secretagentmole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 The right to bear arms was not introduced for sporting purposes, but the ability for the people to stand up against an oppressive government or tyrant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 I only ever had 3 guns all served their purpose ,12g semi (not o/u or ss) had the semi purley due to not having to break the barrel (decoying & roosting) 22 rim for rabbits (5 shot mag) shot on average 700 - 1000 a year but never felt the need for a bigger mag or even an additional mag for that fact 243 for fox and deer (5 shot internal mag but loaded this through chamber) so only even one round in the gun Had the 22 round not been so small & fiddly I would of preferred to load that trough the chamber also, So there you go ordnance no requirements for a 45-60 round per min magazine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1440 Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) The right to bear arms was not introduced for sporting purposes, but the ability for the people to stand up against an oppressive government or tyrant.And those Drones, F16s and cruise missilestake some stopping.. The right to bear arms might have been relevant in the civil war etc.. but now? Jeeze you've got me sounding like an anti now.. believe me I ain't. My interests are fieldsports and a I don't want them curtailed by reaction to the actions of those that it is reasonable to expect to be prevented from doing the unthinkable. Home or abroad.. All the same in the eyes of some. Edited June 21, 2016 by Paul1440 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) I only ever had 3 guns all served their purpose ,12g semi (not o/u or ss) had the semi purley due to not having to break the barrel (decoying & roosting) 22 rim for rabbits (5 shot mag) shot on average 700 - 1000 a year but never felt the need for a bigger mag or even an additional mag for that fact 243 for fox and deer (5 shot internal mag but loaded this through chamber) so only even one round in the gun Had the 22 round not been so small & fiddly I would of preferred to load that trough the chamber also, So there you go ordnance no requirements for a 45-60 round per min magazine. I pointed out what firearms are avaible in the UK, that are cabible of semi auto fire. Just because you doint use them doesn't mean that others doint or shouldn't. Edited June 21, 2016 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 If you can find me an article, or video, of Piers Morgan advocating for increased gun control in the UK, I will be interested to see it. I don't believe he is even "anti gun" for the USA, he just states there should be "gun control", something I have no argument with. He even cites the UK as a fine example of efficient "gun control" through effective licensing. "He is one of the biggest dangers to Our sport to be seen in our life times", I don't think so. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3537526/I-stop-two-big-beasts-butting-heads-Susanna-Reid-steps-stop-feisty-exchange-Piers-Morgan-big-game-hunter.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 And those Drones, F16s and cruise missiles take some stopping.. The right to bear arms might have been relevant in the civil war etc.. but now? Jeeze you've got me sounding like an anti now.. believe me I ain't. My interests are fieldsports and a I don't want them curtailed by reaction to the actions of those that it is reasonable to expect to be prevented from doing the unthinkable. Your not an anti mate,but more important you're not one of these HARDCORE PRO SHOOTERS, who incidentally are doing more damage than the anti's. You are stating a fact & a fact that need to be addressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) HARDCORE PRO SHOOTERS, who incidentally are doing more damage than the anti's. You are stating a fact & a fact that need to be addressed. What evidence do you have that (HARDCORE PRO SHOOTERS, who incidentally are doing more damage than the anti's) ? ? The last firearms controls in the UK were after Dunblane and hungerford nothing to do with HARDCORE PRO SHOOTERS as you call them. Edited June 21, 2016 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 I pointed out what firearms are avaible in the UK, that are cabible of semi auto fire. Just because you doint use them doesn't mean that others doint or shouldn't. Were talking about guns that have a purpose (semi automatic inc) but not military style guns favoured by these American nutters. If you can state a valid reason why you would require a 45-60 round mag in a gun that capable of firing off the mag in 1min & convince your FEO then OK. Wouldn't want anyone living in my Village owning one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 What evidence do you have that (HARDCORE PRO SHOOTERS, who incidentally are doing more damage than the anti's) ? ? Go back to post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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