anser2 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I see the leader of the leave Britexit Boris Johnson was hedging his bets to see which way the wind was blowing before making up his mind who's side he was on. Boris Johnson has confessed to having written an alternative pro-EU column for The Daily Telegraph at the same time as penning his piece backing ‘Brexit’. The Leave campaign’s most prominent cheerleader electrified the early stages of the EU referendum campaign when he announced he would oppose the Government line and support ‘Out’. TELEGRAPH Many observers noted how his pro-Brexit stance contrasted with his previous comments, including telling fellow Tories he was “no Outer”. They also noted that backing Leave would bode well for a future leadership bid. On Newsnight last night, on the eve of polling day, Johnson confirmed a rumour that was swirled around Westminster that underlined his conflict. “I’ll tell you what the second article said. What it said was that, actually, irrespective of my objectives to the way the EU was going, in order to support my party and the Prime Minister it would be better to stay in. In the end that wasn’t a good enough reason.” Reporter Michael Cockerell suggested that the ‘In’ column was a more convincing argument according to a source that had read it - something Johnson brushed off. Even before Johnson’s announcement at an impromptu press conference earlier this year, some made clear they thought he was not a true believer - including Tory MP Nicholas Soames, the grandson of Winston Churchill. And to think so many people were fooled by him. All he has used the EU vote for is to position himself to become the next Tory Prime Minister. Nobody can trust him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Who gives a hoot, cameron lied throughout the campaign. At least we can choose our PM when the election comes around. All I want it for us to leave, i don't care who or why is pushing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Well if it were him or DC ill vote for him thanks DC as behaved just as bad if not worse in his own way. By the way polling as finnished just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Anser2, You either have a vested interest in staying in or you've been fooled! By being taken in by the remain parties propaganda, misinformation, threats and downright lies! But it's last night chip wrapper now...........as the die is already cast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted June 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) Yes I have a vested interest in staying in , I do not want this country to go down the pan which it will do if we leave the EU and I certantly do not want the next PM who puts himself before the country. Its clear Boris is interested in only one thing... Boris. Edited June 23, 2016 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I really wouldn't worry about it. If it's true, and we vote in, then he's shot himself in the foot. If it's true and we vote out, then he's shot himself in the foot. He's a politician; to claim one is more honest than another when their career is on the line is ludicrous. Cameron is on record as saying to leave the EU wouldn't do the UK too much damage, yet during the referendum he had leaving responsible for the possibility of WWIII, a recession and everything in between. There are very few politicians in it for the sake of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 So Boris looked into both sides before making up his mind which is better ? GOOD! SO DID I. Anyone who out rightly refused to even consider the pro's and con's of the opposing sides argument is narrow minded and a fool. Making an informed decision means looking at both sides and despite positives and negatives for both, picking the side you think is better over all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yod dropper Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Don't worry, Jeremy Corbyn will get in with a landslide. We all knew he was out but then eventually sort of went in but we know he didn't want to. We all knew Cameron was in but pretended to be out whilst negotiating. We all know where Nigel stands, always did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 It is old news that Boris had two articles written, he was very clear and candid that it took him much soul searching to decide which way to go. The deciding factor was the return of DC effectively empty handed from his EU charm offensive and at that point BoJo made his choice. Having made his choice he committed himself fully. I respect the man for his candour in stating that it was a difficult choice and I respect him for having the courage of his convictions having made it. BoJo didn't need this referendum to make his case, he has the charisma of a political giant in comparison to anybody else who would have challenged him, he was a two term Conservative mayor in a city that is majority Labour, he has genuine cross party appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuffy Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I really wouldn't worry about it. If it's true, and we vote in, then he's shot himself in the foot. If it's true and we vote out, then he's shot himself in the foot. He's a politician; to claim one is more honest than another when their career is on the line is ludicrous. Cameron is on record as saying to leave the EU wouldn't do the UK too much damage, yet during the referendum he had leaving responsible for the possibility of WWIII, a recession and everything in between. There are very few politicians in it for the sake of the country. Too true . Anyway , it's done now , we'll all still be getting rodgered by the oxbridge set whatever . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted June 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) David Hannan ( leading leave member ) admits Brexit side are is not going to control immigration on Newsnight . Nigel Fararge ( German Leave member ) admits that the £350 contribution to the EU was a mistake On ITVs breakfast. Uk has lost its AAA credit rating and looks like dropping lower Pound has dropped to 1985 levels. Mid week it was worth $150 , tonight $136 . Experts are saying that when the losses filter through it is going to put £100 on the family budget. That’s the same losses for the UK as we have paid into the EU in the last 15 years. Scotland is looking to leave the UK again 11,000 steel workers set to lose jobs as TATA say leaving has made it almost impossible for US buyer to take over. The UK has dropped from 5th to the 6th largest economy And Boris fooled the UK public that warnings about this were just scare mongering. And this is just day two I've heard rumours that UKIP supporters are in a panic after all their £ badges shrunk in size overnight. Edited June 25, 2016 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69chris Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 dunno if its been posted already (sorry if so) or if anyone wants to believe it but worth a look............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 dunno if its been posted already (sorry if so) or if anyone wants to believe it but worth a look............. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9cLwoTkWes With the crash of the ££ I can't afford to have it translated 😏😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) We will be able to choose which people we let in, which is better than current system. £350m contribution he said was a mistake because it didn't include the rebate. Either way, we pay £55m a day and get £21m back, its better we keep all £55m and choose how we want to spend it. The pound will recover once things settle, if you thought we would leave and the pound wouldn't drop in short term your a fool. FTSE100 bounced back to higher than it started on Monday. All the big businesses and other countries already stating their intentions to stay in UK and setup trade deals. Scotland couldn't make sums work when it was $120 a barrel of oil, its now $50 a barrel. I hope they leave. Exports are doing well. Its sad that two days in and the remainiacs are saying we told you so. How quick do you think the changes happen? Its short term pain for long term gains. David Hannan ( leading leave member ) admits Brexit side are is not going to control immigration on Newsnight . Nigel Fararge ( German Leave member ) admits that the £350 contribution to the EU was a mistake On ITVs breakfast. Uk has lost its AAA credit rating and looks like dropping lower Pound has dropped to 1985 levels. Mid week it was worth $150 , tonight $136 . Experts are saying that when the losses filter through it is going to put £100 on the family budget. That’s the same losses for the UK as we have paid into the EU in the last 15 years. Scotland is looking to leave the UK again 11,000 steel workers set to lose jobs as TATA say leaving has made it almost impossible for US buyer to take over. The UK has dropped from 5th to the 6th largest economy And Boris fooled the UK public that warnings about this were just scare mongering. And this is just day two I've heard rumours that UKIP supporters are in a panic after all their £ badges shrunk in size overnight. Edited June 25, 2016 by topshot_2k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69chris Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 With the crash of the ££ I can't afford to have it translated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 One of the side benefits of being out of Europe is we don't have to listen to all this expensive clap trap about shooting with lead. We can make our own rules. You have been sucked in thinking we will stay. The people have voted and we are OUT. Thank the Lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 I haven't seen one printed article that states that Boris wants to be our next PM in fact I have seen lots of stuff in print to say exactly the opposite.. from Auntie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted June 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Quote "We will be able to choose which people we let in, which is better than current system." Not according to the leave side last night on Newsnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted June 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) Boris never says anything , just brushes aside questions with the standard answer " it will be alright" or no thing to worry about". Mind you he sits on the fence to see which way the wind is blowing. Its clear that having won Boris and the leave side has no idea what to do next. They should have had a plan already worked out , not wait until afterwards and then hold a meeting to decide. Perhaps its time to send him to the tower is true British tradition for treason for destroying the future of the country.. Edited June 25, 2016 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) Quote "We will be able to choose which people we let in, which is better than current system." Not according to the leave side last night on Newsnight Once things have been decided and the dust has settled there will be a proper points system. How can anyone comment on it yet, we haven't even decided who the new PM is let alone start discussing with europe on the how the market will work. Hanna said the same things he said last night way back during the campaign. It will be better controlled and the tap won't turn off over night. Edited June 25, 2016 by topshot_2k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) Boris never says anything , just brushes aside questions with the standard answer " it will be alright" or no thing to worry about". Mind you he sits on the fence to see which way the wind is blowing. Its clear that having won Boris and the leave side has no idea what to do next. They should have had a plan already worked out , not wait until afterwards and then hold a meeting to decide. Perhaps its time to send him to the tower is true British tradition for treason for destroying the future of the country.. IN or OUT Simple wasn't it? You heard all the rhetoric. More details to follow. Cameron blased a trail with can we stay the same please. Easy and guess what he lost! Edited June 25, 2016 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Boris never says anything , just brushes aside questions with the standard answer " it will be alright" or no thing to worry about". Mind you he sits on the fence to see which way the wind is blowing. Its clear that having won Boris and the leave side has no idea what to do next. They should have had a plan already worked out , not wait until afterwards and then hold a meeting to decide. Perhaps its time to send him to the tower is true British tradition for treason for destroying the future of the country.. It's not up to the Brexit side to do anything, it's up to the elected government to do the will of the people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul65 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) It's not up to the Brexit side to do anything, it's up to the elected government to do the will of the people! Yep, and that's why the government shouldn't have taken sides on this once they had called a referendum. They should have prepared for both eventualities. I suspect they did but because they took a side, they are still trying to make the Brexit side look bad. Edited June 25, 2016 by paul65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 It's not up to the Brexit side to do anything, it's up to the elected government to do the will of the people! What was the will of the people? Out yes and no doubt out it will be. The out is open to different interpretation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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