Twistedsanity Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 I know that advert and thought exactly the same when I watched it last night, the ASA forced a friend of mine to withdraw some claims from his website about a product he makes after one person complained so they do take their job seriously and act although I'm not sure how they would deal with a charity who has probably paid a small fortune for the advert. We all know people who have been hit by cancer but using emotional blackmail to secure money to pay for their adverts and ceo's third holiday home doesn't sit well (Google says he earns a mere 1/4 million a year) I wonder how much of that he donates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) are you thinking that charity could be a front for big business and other ambitions? A few years ago, someone i knew raised lots of money to go to Scandinavia for the trip of a lifetime to do the huskie sled challenge, there was a charity that benefitted so i was told. cynical old me, felt that the charity was paying for the trip of a lifetime and that the charity angle/contribution was used to achieve that trip. its like me raising money to go to graceland, as i would really like to go there, but dressing it up as a charity by sticking a tenner in the tin at the airport. A millionaire business owner friend of the Mrs recently donated 2 weeks of her life to help the "Muslim hands" charity, this involved setting up a just giving page attached to her fb account where she guilt tripped all her friends into coughing up a mere £2500 for her air fair and accommodation to Pakistan where half her family live then publicly basking in the glory of how charitable she was, nice work if you can get it Edited January 20, 2017 by Twistedsanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 This post is going off topic. I get the OPs point over the sensativity of the ad in question. As I said it didn't bother me but if it bothered the OP then it is quite within his rights to complain about it. However, I don't get people complaining about people working for charities getting paid. Do people seriously think that everybody who works for a charity should do so for free? As for the CEO of charity x getting paid £y. the trustees would have to justify the remuneration of the CEO and one assumes do so on the basis that the job he/she does justifies their remuneration I.e it pays for itself. The same as any business. I agree regarding the holidays wrapped up under the covers of a charity. I remember somebody on here a few years ago trying to justify getting sponsorship to go to Mauritius to help out at a school! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) Not sure how you can justify a 1/4 million pounds a year salary for being CEO of a charity that comes from mainly guilt tripping people into donating but I get your point. I'm confident there are a lot of people who could and would do his job for 1/2 that amount Edited January 20, 2017 by Twistedsanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 It's just big businesses begging for money from ordinary people to keep their paid top executives and employees in cushy jobs with high value perks and fringe benefits......how many £''s do you have to donate before any gets to the advertised cause? A few years ago a large so called humanitarian "charity" were exposed when after administration expenses were paid out, just a couple of pence out of every pound donated actually got to the people the donations were intended to help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 charities should be salary capped, maybe 3 x average UK wage? As for annoying adverts, well some are intended to be annoying, thats how they work, annoying sticks in the memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Age UK just been on telly touting for money when folks peg it so it looks as though there are a few charities doing the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 My ex wife's uncle was a senior civil servant. When he retired he was 'found' a job working for a major international charity. He worked hard and I don't doubt his dedication but every where he went it was executive class flights and five star hotels plus he was allowed to take his wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 This post is going off topic. I get the OPs point over the sensativity of the ad in question. As I said it didn't bother me but if it bothered the OP then it is quite within his rights to complain about it. However, I don't get people complaining about people working for charities getting paid. Do people seriously think that everybody who works for a charity should do so for free? As for the CEO of charity x getting paid £y. the trustees would have to justify the remuneration of the CEO and one assumes do so on the basis that the job he/she does justifies their remuneration I.e it pays for itself. The same as any business. I agree regarding the holidays wrapped up under the covers of a charity. I remember somebody on here a few years ago trying to justify getting sponsorship to go to Mauritius to help out at a school! I have no problem with people getting paid and charities having expenses etc, but i dont think its acceptable when you get situations where say 10p in the £ actually goes to the cause and 90p to the "costs" of the charity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 If you've got a multi million pound business (because that's what these charities are) , you don't pay some numpty who's keen to volunteer to run an organisation of that magnitude. Same as people bashing highly paid council execs, bankers or whatever, perhaps they are over-paid, but if the job was that easy to do well then why isn't everyone doing it? I'd be happy to give it a bash for half the money. £60k plus a year, but I doubt I'd have the skills or experience that they want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) If you've got a multi million pound business (because that's what these charities are) , you don't pay some numpty who's keen to volunteer to run an organisation of that magnitude. Same as people bashing highly paid council execs, bankers or whatever, perhaps they are over-paid, but if the job was that easy to do well then why isn't everyone doing it? I'd be happy to give it a bash for half the money. £60k plus a year, but I doubt I'd have the skills or experience that they want that is what 'they' want you to think. Most folk in well paid jobs are not particularly intelleigent or even have skills that are that special. They have just had opportunities and then taken them. Edited January 21, 2017 by scolopax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandringstar Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 some people can only work in the public sector, or for charity, its much harder to get found out and then got rid of. some people can only work in the public sector, or for charity, its much harder for them to get found out and then got rid of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) They should legislate that to keep their charitable status at least 50% or more of all income should go for the purpose its raised. They could give them a couple of years to give the charities time to get there house in order before this comes into effect. This will stop them from cutting back on services to fund perks and fancy headquarters buildings and other unnecessary perks and focus on what they are supposed to be doing. I am sure the salaries of staff are a fraction of what some charities waste. If the charity is funding medical staff salaries or staff actually doing the charitable work like running a soup kitchen etc that could be classed as a legitimate outgoing, but I am sure a lot of the admin could be pared down. Edited January 22, 2017 by loriusgarrulus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Cancer UK say that 80% of what gets donated goes towards finding a cure. The British Heart Foundation say 78% of their income goes towards fighting heart disease. I am sure that there are dodgy charities out there that only use 10% but the two above seem reasonable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Think the RSPCA do a campaign aimed at guilt tripping people with pets The RSPCA make a fortune from reality tv programmes....they are not penniless ! The accounts submitted to the Charity Commissioners may show a small current account, but they have a reserve account that,s huge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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