old'un Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 So we can now get on with the job of leaving the EU, but! Why does it take so long to implement things, article 50 as been passed, why not send them the letter tomorrow? The time scale below is what Mrs May would like to happen but in reality I think this will run for 5 years and maybe longer, there are so many MP's that plan to derail the schedule it could take 10 years before most MP's are happy. Mrs May's Brexit means Brexit will be so watered down we might as well of stayed in the EU. March 31, 2017: The deadline Mrs May has set for invoking Article 50 by notifying the European Council of Britain’s intention to leave the EU September 30, 2018: Date by which EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, Michel Barnier, wants to wrap up deal on Britain’s exit from the Union March 31, 2019: Date by which Theresa May wants to wrap up negotiations over Brexit May 2019? Britain formally exits the EU, following ratification of Brexit by all other member states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 I don't think we should witch hunt those that voted against, unless they're going against the majority vote of their constituents. Personally, I would prefer my MPs to respect the view of the majority of the people they were directly elected to represent. Must admit i'm with this above. At a glance a lot of the boroughs seem to be in about London which i believe voted strongly to remain, so it really fair enough to vote how ur constituants voted. Different story if most voted to leave thou as there there to represent that area and the feelings/beliefs from there Must admit its probably worke dout for the best now wth the court case forcing this vote now theres no legal wrangles or loopholes to come further down the line. They'll be enough of them from brussels trying to unravel it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Gina Miller must be ecstatic now that due process has been followed. I'm really happy for her. She has achieved what she set out to do, we all know her name, we can all recognise her picture, yes she's probably well satisfied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Publicity hungry - she has had her 15 minutes of fame. Good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) I thought that T May really made JC. look pretty insignificant when she quite forcibly told him that he was leading a small demonstration but that she was leading the country. not even worth mentioning the libs. PS I still see that King Nige is still baiting and goading the euros out there. >>> There not laughing now. Edited February 2, 2017 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister22 Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 The bill is off to the "other place" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 I see Tim Farron managed a whole 33 votes for his second referendum amendment Even the SNP weren't mad enough to back that ludicrous proposal. I see also that Diane Abbott stocked up on paracetamol before this final vote. I've watched quite a bit of the debate over the last few days. So many sly, underhand attempts to derail or delay the process. But also some great speeches from MPs who originally wanted to remain but are now wholeheartedly backing the democratic will of the people, Oliver Letwin's speech particularly stood out. Now the final hurdle, The Lords. I know the aforementioned Tim Farron will be pushing his peers to cause problems but I'm not sure they dare to do so. Any significant trouble causing may prompt the calling of a GE and I doubt any of the parties really want that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I see Tim Farron managed a whole 33 votes for his second referendum amendment Even the SNP weren't mad enough to back that ludicrous proposal. I see also that Diane Abbott stocked up on paracetamol before this final vote. I've watched quite a bit of the debate over the last few days. So many sly, underhand attempts to derail or delay the process. But also some great speeches from MPs who originally wanted to remain but are now wholeheartedly backing the democratic will of the people, Oliver Letwin's speech particularly stood out. Now the final hurdle, The Lords. I know the aforementioned Tim Farron will be pushing his peers to cause problems but I'm not sure they dare to do so. Any significant trouble causing may prompt the calling of a GE and I doubt any of the parties really want that. About time the Lords were reformed and reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) Actually Gina Miller and whoever the Remoamers were that were backing her behind the scenes have well and truly shot themselves in the foot. I'm sure they thought they were tossing a massive spanner into the works. Instead they have set the whole thing in stone. Silenced their own opposition in the process There was a correspondant on the radio from Germany very early this morning when I was driving back to London, he was saying that the British vote in parliament has barely been reported in Germany. Just a total blackout, nothing on TV and only a few non committal lines in the papers. He was of the opinion that is the most revealing aspect of the whole story, Germany are now trying to bury it ahead of their own elections. Which means they have accepted its coming and have started damage limitation Edited February 9, 2017 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 All of the EU Partners will be desperately trying to subdue these stories in case their own electorate decide to seek a way out in their upcoming elections! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Actually Gina Miller and whoever the Remoamers were that were backing her behind the scenes have well and truly shot themselves in the foot. I'm sure they thought they were tossing a massive spanner into the works. Instead they have set the whole thing in stone. Silenced their own opposition in the process There was a correspondant on the radio from Germany very early this morning when I was driving back to London, he was saying that the British vote in parliament has barely been reported in Germany. Just a total blackout, nothing on TV and only a few non committal lines in the papers. He was of the opinion that is the most revealing aspect of the whole story, Germany are now trying to bury it ahead of their own elections. Which means they have accepted its coming and have started damage limitation The problem the German government is facing is that 'populism' (another word for public opinion) is threatening the establishment and making it more likely for far right candidates to gain power. The scary thing about France is that the only feasible opposition to the far right are mired in corruption allegations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Substitute 'Geert Wilders' for Nigel Farage and the story seems to be very familiar............ http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38956740 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted February 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 The problem the German government is facing is that 'populism' (another word for public opinion) is threatening the establishment and making it more likely for far right candidates to gain power. The scary thing about France is that the only feasible opposition to the far right are mired in corruption allegations. Yes, it must be tough for them having to put up with those who just want to represent ordinary people... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) I had to laugh at this when someone asked him if he was trying to kiss her he replied I was trying to whisper thank you in her ear I'm not blind you now. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/diane-abbott-unleashes-fourletter-volley-after-kiss-by-brexit-minister-david-davis-a3462541.html Edited February 13, 2017 by four-wheel-drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 This is more or less on topic. It popped up on my Youtube recommendations. Obviously I was aware of JRM but until I looked her up I had no idea who Jess Phillips was. An entertaining political discussion, far away from the run of the mill formula we see on most political programmes. I particularly liked the part where JRM (correctly) identified Jess as a member of the "new" establishment. Definitely worth a watch if you have 10 minutes spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Jess Phillips has been on HIGNFY. She is quite entertaining. And Jacob Rees-Mogg puts up a good show too on the same program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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