adarmo Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Hi, I want to reduce my CZ 511 barrel length and I'm being told by my local gunshop that recently the laws changed and they now have to be re proofed - is that correct ? I've searched and can't find anything. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Ring the proofhouse! I haven't heard this either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 No reproof required Shortening is not going to affect the barrels pressure bearing capacity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 No it's not correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adarmo Posted April 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Ring the proofhouse! I haven't heard this either! I have a friend who works there - he says it is correct - but he would, because of course he only sees the guns that have been submitted for re proofing ! No reproof required Shortening is not going to affect the barrels pressure bearing capacity I agree - if anything it might reduce it but the laws rarely follow sense IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 They told me the same, they just want to charge you 5x as much. I've had gunshots tell me all sorts of factually incorrect info. Useless half of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 There is no requirement to reproof following a barrel chop, though many RFD's will tell you it has to be done. I and three mates all have had our .22rf's chopped; not one of us has had a reproof. Your RFD is talking codswallop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Nope. No need for re-proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Codwallop. lol. Haven't heard that for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 No need to reproof but the proof house would like you to give them money for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Codwallop. lol. Haven't heard that for years. Think I may be showing my age now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Think I may be showing my age now. Only if you tell us you still have a couple of bottles in the pantry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Think I may be showing my age now. Think I heard some nincompoop on the wireless using the phrase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adarmo Posted April 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 (edited) I called the gunshop and it seems I misunderstood. The issue wasn't the cutting down it was re threading the barrel afterwards. But I've seen a thread on here with a legal case stating that it is not required - I presume that still stands Edited April 1, 2017 by adarmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 I called the gunshop and it seems I misunderstood. The issue wasn't the cutting down it was re threading the barrel afterwards. I presume the same applies - gunshops think you should - everyone else thinks it ok. There are a couple of problems here, 1 The law says that would need to be re-proofed if the barrel has been substantially weakened (i don't think screw cutting does that, 1000's have been done without a problem) 2 Even if the rifle were to be deemed out of proof because of the work done to the barrel it would only be a legal problem if you were selling it. 3 On the other hand if you where the one doing the work would you want to make sure your backside was covered by having the barrel re-proofed at the customers cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69chris Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 if you sold the rifle with a freshly cut/threaded barrel......who'd who when it was done ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 if you sold the rifle with a freshly cut/threaded barrel......who'd who when it was done ?? It should be easy as if the barrel had been re-proofed because the barrel had been threaded the muzzle should have a proof mark, but the only problem is if the barrel was screw cut before it was first proofed then it will only have the marks at chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 I called the gunshop and it seems I misunderstood. The issue wasn't the cutting down it was re threading the barrel afterwards. But I've seen a thread on here with a legal case stating that it is not required - I presume that still stands Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adarmo Posted April 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Final question - who can I get to do the work ? It's only a cheap CZ 511 hence not wanting to re proof I'm near Coventry / Warwick. I've seen Benjamin Wild in Birmingham recommended so I'll give him a call - any others ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 have you guys seen the date? 1st April! The OP is pulling your chain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Question. How many new rifles, with screw cuts, have the barrel stamp at the screw cut. I know none of mine ever have. Answer to who can cut. Richard Pope is close to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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