ips Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 I love my s400 BUT I always consider my springers to be "propper" air rifles especially my bsa lightning. Does anyone feel the same.. Discuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sishyplops Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 There's obviously a lot more skill involved in hitting he target with a springer, but if you're out hunting it's a PCP for me no brainier, my tx was almost as accurate but the sheer weight is not amusing to lug around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1nut Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Must admit there is something very satisfying about a springer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Yep. The only reason I own a tcp is as a night shooting tool, other than that the 97K comes with me. The only other possible exception would be it I went FAC air and then I'd want something running at around 25-30 ftlbs in .22 I was talking to a chap that's an rifle instructor the other day and he practices with a springer in his garden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted April 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 To me springers are more difficult to shoot well. As you all know you cant bench rest a springer and get good result's, pcp as much as I like and appreciate the phenomenal accuracy just seem a bit sterile. I would still choose the pcp for a good clean kill of course 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrj Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Only ever had Spring rifles until this weekend.grew up using BSA Meteors and ASI paratroopers etc,Marksman pellets in the little red box. I bought a collection of springers recently to sell on,I ended up keeping a couple of pistols and used them for target shooting in the garden,I had forgotten how much I enjoyed it,so much it rekindled my interest. I picked up a Weihrauch HW 100 KS on Saturday from Range and Country Gunshop in Sleaford (terrific shop and people) I cannot believe the accuracy,power and total absence of recoil and noise,it is a different world to spring rifles. I still have a lovely BSA Lightning XL SE in the cabinet which I will always keep (nostalgia and simplicity) and I think their is always a use for them in most people's arsenal but the pcp is world's apart. I have put some padding in the back of my target pellet catcher and you would now be hard pushed to hear me shooting from the other side of a fence panel,no muzzle report and no sound when the pellet hits the target,in today's world where anything gun related can cause a stir ,keeping things silent is definately a plus point. I will always have both styles of rifle but apart from the 'self contained' convenience of a springer and value they offer I can't see me using my BSA much when the PCP is sat next to it in the cabinet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted May 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Good post, totally agree. Yep I was same era, forgot about the paratrooper that's a trip down memory lane. Never had one as I could not afford one at the time 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) Nostalgia is a coat that seems to fit Airgun users well - there is little point in rekindling the discussion about which is "better" because the PCP will win every time in the real world, the fact that it is "easier" to shoot accurately is a built in bonus that few Springers can match. I would suggest that vermin hunters are practically duty bound to use PCP's simply because of the better chance of a clean kill both in terms of accuracy and the common multi shot capability. But the humble springer (that I believe reached it's zenith in the last few years with such offerings as the TX200 etc) will never fade away into obscurity due to it's simplicity and reliability, plus the fact that many of us have very fond memories of our first tentative forays into hunting with our prized springers, guns such as the Mercury, HW80, FWB sport and a myriad of others will forever tug at our heart strings and find a place in our cabinets like a favourite jumper in the wardrobe. So IMHO both are "proper" Airguns but the PCP is king in the "real" world whilst the springer is the Queen of Hearts. Edited May 1, 2017 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 All valid comments. But I still prefer my boinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Love my bsa collection,but hunting is a pcp fac air arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 See my first comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarepeg Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Every time I shoot my airsporter mk1 it takes me back my younger days,bought on demob in 56 and appart from its very nice pleasing shape, (never surpassed I.mh.o) it's a bit of heritage we can still brag about. After the mk2 they went down hill fast. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 I was brought up on springers but I see them as tools to learn how to shoot. I agree with the earlier comment about vermin control in that the pcp is probably what should be used because it is easier to be accurate and is therefore more humane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 I always had springers, now I have a Prosport and an AA/CZ S200. The Prosport isfor fun/plinking and static shooting over decoys or rabbit warrens. The S200 is a walkabout gun, nowhere near as much fun and somewhat boring. It doesn't need much from me, in fact I could strap it to a bench and it will outshoot me. I'm fed up with it after 20 shots so it doesn't get used much. Even a bad day on pigeons can see me plinking 300 shots with the PS and really enjoying myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 After nearly a lifetime of springers (my first a BSA Cadet Major), followed by a Meteor, Hawk and Webley Mk3 and a long break, I purchased a Daystate PCP. I now only shoot target at the rifle club and I soon got bored with it's superb accuracy. Daystate now gone replaced by a HW98, the springer intrerest is now back with me and if you can hold the 98 steady, boy is it accurate. Revitalised springer user. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted May 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 This is what I found. The accuracy of a pcp plus dare I say no real "feedback" from the gun does get a little boring. Having said that I accept that a pcp is the best tool to do the job if clean kills are required. There is just something about the "feedback" from a springer that a pcp does not give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I find sometimes people say that springers are not as accurate as a tcp. Balderdash and piffle I say to that. There is no difference in accuracy it's just that a springer is a required technique whereas a tcp is pretty much point and squeeze. A mate of mine only shoots shotgun and tcp, I can use his tcp (or mine) and hit everything he does, he really really struggles with my 97 to hit a 40mm knock over at 25 yards. I keep teasingly telling him that any 12 thumbed knuckle dragger can shoot a tcp and feel good about it. Good job he's a good mate.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I really love springers and have had a few in my time but having crossed to the dark side I can honestly say if accuracy and by that I mean zero effort pin point accuracy is you bag than a pcp is the way to go. Accuracy for anything other than tin cans in the garden is clearly the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I had not shot an air rifle for over 60yrs when I found a situation where I needed one. I called in my local air rifle specialists and they pointed to two TX200 rifles on the second hand rack. The short barrelled one looked like new and I was assured I would find it accurate. It is a 177. Everything they said was absolutely true. It is scary accurate and I see no reason to change to any other system. Loading the TX200 for arthritic fingers/thumbs is a problem but I have solved that. Weight is not a problem as all of my air rifle shooting is static from purpose built cabins or pop up blinds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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