Nurses parking at Hospitals

[Gordon R]

have to pay £80 a week to park

 

 

This was the OP. It would definitely seem to be a Diane Abbot figure - as I suggested in post 2. This has been over-stated by a factor of at least 4. Why should nurses get free parking, if others pay - visitors for example.

 

Nursing is an emotive issue. People always say pay them more, but I fail to see why. They do a very, very worthy job, but they go into it with eyes open - just the same as any job. Where it does stick in my throat is when MPs vote themselves huge rises, whilst advocating restraint.

 

Perhaps Corbyn could donate some of his extra salary - as Labour Leader, or perhaps Abbott could donate her TV appearance money.

 

I think not - Socialism begins at someone else's home.

[bostonmick]

There are lots of people that have to pay for parking to go to work, my mum for one and even then she has to walk about 5 minutes into the office and costs her around £30 a week. it was one of the factors she had to consider when taking the job.

 

I am bound to be shot down in flames for this and i am not knocking the NHS and especially not the wonderful staff but why do people feel you should get special treatment just because you are a doctor or nurse? Its not like the NHS has only just started paying **** wages and has antisocial work hours its been like that for years no one forces you to do that job. I would have a major issue though if it turned out the senior management and trust people got free parking and everyone else had to pay that would be taking the real jimmy riddle.

I have two daughters both nurses.both came out of training with debts.then went to work for NHS and neither have had a pay rise for six years.strange thing is the parking permit has risen in that time.

[Fuddster]

'there's only two certainties in life-death, and nurses'.

 

Discuss.

 

Bless them all.

 

f.

[Lloyd90]

I have two daughters both nurses.both came out of training with debts.then went to work for NHS and neither have had a pay rise for six years.strange thing is the parking permit has risen in that time.

What Debts?

 

I know many nurses now, their course fees are paid for (it's only just changed) and they also receive a £500+ a month bursary.

 

I know this about covered the rent and some had to work as well for living many but many many student nurses are coming out with very little debt compared to others.

 

I myself and many many students had 18+ hours a week part time jobs whilst studying full time and having placements and will be coming out with big debts. I knew this before I CHOSE to do the course.

 

Although a lot of nurses don't have it easy until recently they'd had it a lot better than many other students and have great employment options coming out of uni.

[poontang]

I have two daughters both nurses.both came out of training with debts.then went to work for NHS and neither have had a pay rise for six years.

 

They should, based on annual review and performance, be getting extra entitlement on a yearly basis.

 

https://nursingnotes.co.uk/often-get-increment/

[poontang]

'there's only two certainties in life-death, and nurses angels'

 

Discuss.

 

Bless them all.

 

f.

 

Hope you don't mind the slight alteration to your post?

[Medic1281]

 

They should, based on annual review and performance, be getting extra entitlement on a yearly basis.

 

 

https://nursingnotes.co.uk/often-get-increment/

Only until they get to a gateway or top of their banding which takes around 8 years, then they don't get increments.

[Lloyd90]

Only until they get to a gateway or top of their banding which takes around 8 years, then they don't get increments.

Doesn't that happen in most jobs? You get to the max pay for your level of skill and expertise.

 

If you want more pay you have to increase your skills, training or expertise or go up into management?

[Medic1281]

Doesn't that happen in most jobs? You get to the max pay for your level of skill and expertise.

 

If you want more pay you have to increase your skills, training or expertise or go up into management?

Yeah. I'm just pointing out that's it's not automatic every year forever.

[Mice!]

I don't pay for parking, factory work but quite often see jobs advertising free parking with the job. In my line of work would never entertain paying for parking.

[bostonmick]

Doesn't that happen in most jobs? You get to the max pay for your level of skill and expertise.

 

If you want more pay you have to increase your skills, training or expertise or go up into management?

It does certainly. One of my brothers drives a fuel tanker.had to pass hgv1 and do a couple of short courses to be able to carry fuels.now on 50k a year five days no weekends no nights or late shifts.no years at uni.no student loan debts.my daughters work all shifts long hours weekends nights and with the most demanding and needy people in our society.the mentally ill.and that includes criminally insane.and all for around half the pay of driving a lorry.i suppose in your logic this is about right and fair.yes they chose this path and I am proud to say they did this for the right reasons.they are both caring people and wanted to help those who are unable to help themselves.but this does not make an unfair system any better.

[clakk]

Our Hospital is 2 miles from town and all the streets are resident parking permit ,so no shoppers and no free parking for anyone.Sorry it,s very wrong the biggest employer in britain with a budget bigger than a lot of country,s shouldnt charge people to work there.They know how big their staff number,s are ,a staff multi storey on most regional hospitals would clear lots of spaces for visitor,s and take the sting out of paying to work .

London would be a different matter as land is so expensive but Liebour scum brought the charge in and now he,s got the nerve to throw in the chance of free parking as an election bribe,,anyone trust the 3 stooges to stick to their promise

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Jeremy Corbyn is planning to offer free trips to the Moon on Thursday's if the Labour Party win the General Election!

[Lloyd90]

It does certainly. One of my brothers drives a fuel tanker.had to pass hgv1 and do a couple of short courses to be able to carry fuels.now on 50k a year five days no weekends no nights or late shifts.no years at uni.no student loan debts.my daughters work all shifts long hours weekends nights and with the most demanding and needy people in our society.the mentally ill.and that includes criminally insane.and all for around half the pay of driving a lorry.i suppose in your logic this is about right and fair.yes they chose this path and I am proud to say they did this for the right reasons.they are both caring people and wanted to help those who are unable to help themselves.but this does not make an unfair system any better.

So surely if your daughters wanted to make double they could have trained as truck drivers?

 

But instead they chose to be nurses. I admire them, it's not a career people choose to go into for the money, much like social work.

 

I just find it mad that someone would actively choose a career, spend years studying it (although their fees are free) and then go into the job complaining about the pay. One of he first things you look at when considering a job is how much you get paid!

 

On top of this lots of nurses pick up bank work, earning big money. Does your brother have the option to overtime and 2-4x his hourly rate?

[bostonmick]

So surely if your daughters wanted to make double they could have trained as truck drivers?

 

But instead they chose to be nurses. I admire them, it's not a career people choose to go into for the money, much like social work.

 

I just find it mad that someone would actively choose a career, spend years studying it (although their fees are free) and then go into the job complaining about the pay. One of he first things you look at when considering a job is how much you get paid!

 

On top of this lots of nurses pick up bank work, earning big money. Does your brother have the option to overtime and 2-4x his hourly rate?

my daughters never chose nursing on the basis of money,however they were led to believe that there would not only be job security but the rewards for their efforts would in time be good,this has not been the case,one daughter had three positions with the nhs in one year,all promised good things and all closed down due to government cutbacks,so how would someone progress their career under such circumstances,yes they can do bank work if they should choose not to have a life at all,they could resign and join the band of agency workers but again there is no enhancement of career in this,and the simple answer to your last question is my brother will not work saturday as overtime as he only gets 250 pounds for it,but will do a sunday because he gets 340 pounds for that day,my daughters are not actually complaining about their jobs or pay as they both love what they do,i am merely pointing out that the nurses o not have the rosey life that some are suggesting,also nursing students have to pay the 9k a year uni fee now,so who do you think is goig to do that for four or five years to gain a job of around 24k a year,my two are fortunate in that i am still helping them in life,i am fortunate enough to be in a position where i can do this,not everyone can,and it still does not make it fair or right,

 

 

edit to say,i do hope your first line about being truck drivers was meant in jest,and not a flipant remark belittling the nursing proffession.who we will all be in need of at some stage in our lives,and that will be the desperate stage for most,

Edited May 9, 2017 by bostonmick

[four-wheel-drive]

The thing that I do not understand is why they have to build Hospitals in the middle of towns where land is short and expensive to buy why not build them 2 miles or so outside the town by a main road as most people today have cars and for those who do not have a car a cheap bus could be laid on this is why they do not build large supper stores in towns mostly I do my weekly shop at Sainsburys as it has a big free carpark. :good:

[Davyo]

Mr Corburn must have been reading this thread as his most recent cry for labour votes is he going to make all Hospital parking free.On a personal note,I can understand visitors paying, but its wrong that staff should have to pay.I for one am very grateful for the work they do and they dont get the credit/support they deserve.

[four-wheel-drive]

my daughters never chose nursing on the basis of money,however they were led to believe that there would not only be job security but the rewards for their efforts would in time be good,this has not been the case,one daughter had three positions with the nhs in one year,all promised good things and all closed down due to government cutbacks,so how would someone progress their career under such circumstances,yes they can do bank work if they should choose not to have a life at all,they could resign and join the band of agency workers but again there is no enhancement of career in this,and the simple answer to your last question is my brother will not work saturday as overtime as he only gets 250 pounds for it,but will do a sunday because he gets 340 pounds for that day,my daughters are not actually complaining about their jobs or pay as they both love what they do,i am merely pointing out that the nurses o not have the rosey life that some are suggesting,also nursing students have to pay the 9k a year uni fee now,so who do you think is goig to do that for four or five years to gain a job of around 24k a year,my two are fortunate in that i am still helping them in life,i am fortunate enough to be in a position where i can do this,not everyone can,and it still does not make it fair or right,

 

 

edit to say,i do hope your first line about being truck drivers was meant in jest,and not a flipant remark belittling the nursing proffession.who we will all be in need of at some stage in our lives,and that will be the desperate stage for most,

This is what happens when you vote Conservative but will people ever learn.

[bostonmick]

This is what happens when you vote Conservative but will people ever learn.

As there are very few people who could love or even like Jeremy I am assuming you are his brother as I doubt you would be his mother.

[Lloyd90]

my daughters never chose nursing on the basis of money,however they were led to believe that there would not only be job security but the rewards for their efforts would in time be good,this has not been the case,one daughter had three positions with the nhs in one year,all promised good things and all closed down due to government cutbacks,so how would someone progress their career under such circumstances,yes they can do bank work if they should choose not to have a life at all,they could resign and join the band of agency workers but again there is no enhancement of career in this,and the simple answer to your last question is my brother will not work saturday as overtime as he only gets 250 pounds for it,but will do a sunday because he gets 340 pounds for that day,my daughters are not actually complaining about their jobs or pay as they both love what they do,i am merely pointing out that the nurses o not have the rosey life that some are suggesting,also nursing students have to pay the 9k a year uni fee now,so who do you think is goig to do that for four or five years to gain a job of around 24k a year,my two are fortunate in that i am still helping them in life,i am fortunate enough to be in a position where i can do this,not everyone can,and it still does not make it fair or right,

 

 

edit to say,i do hope your first line about being truck drivers was meant in jest,and not a flipant remark belittling the nursing proffession.who we will all be in need of at some stage in our lives,and that will be the desperate stage for most,

It was in jest mate, no offence intended.

 

It's interesting times ahead from nursing as they now have to pay their own course fees. My good friend (a mental health nurse) reckons stats are showing applications for MH nursing are down 33% this year!

[Gordon R]

People say that if you vote Tory - this is what you get. Most forget that most of these cost cutting / money generation schemes were brought in by Labour. They had years to pay nurses the proper rate, but didn't.

 

The alternative to voting Tory - in reality - is voting labour. With Corbyn at the helm, it just isn't going to happen. He can promise the Moon and the Stars, but will never have to deliver.

[Mice!]

Front page of todays Mirror, conservatives plan to bring back fox hunting!! So its free parking, trips to the moon and a bit of class bashing as well because only the upper crust of society like to hunt, no one with lurchers or terriers who are possibly working class and probably fit In to what labour are supposed to be about.

Edited May 9, 2017 by Mice!

[Davyo]

Front page of todays Mirror, conservatives plan to bring back fox hunting!! So its free parking, trips to the moon and a bit of class bashing as well because only the upper crust of society like to hunt, no one with lurchers or terriers who are possibly working class and probably fit In to what labour are supposed to be about.

I got a flat cap,ferrets and an old Pit Pony will that do?

[Mice!]

No you need a whippet as well 😉

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Don't forget the obligatory racing pigeons!