FAC is due for renewal

[old'un]

My FAC is due for renewal end of August, just had letter from Staffs police for renewal, one thing I cannot get my head around is the request for permission slips (land approval forms) from farmer/s to say I have permission to shoot.

I have an open ticket so I might be shooting on existing land or new, the onus being put on the shooter as to whether the land/area is safe to shoot, I can understand the request for this information on the grant of FAC but not for renewal on an open ticket.

[m0t0deb]

you might have also lost all your permissions so the firearms dept might not know this that's why they want farmers permissions (not having a dig)

[Danger-Mouse]

Suppose you no longer had any land to shoot on. They would be issuing an open ticket for no reason.

[old'un]

Fair comment and that did enter my head but would it not be easer for them to add a question on the renewal form asking if you still have land to shoot over.

 

Ok lets say I have no land to shoot over but I decide to become a pest controller travelling up and down the country spending a day here and there, what happens then?

[Danger-Mouse]

Fair comment and that did enter my head but would it not be easer for them to add a question on the renewal form asking if you still have land to shoot over.

 

Of course . . . but theywould still want proof.

 

Ok lets say I have no land to shoot over but I decide to become a pest controller travelling up and down the country spending a day here and there, what happens then?

 

No idea . . . good question

[CharlieT]

With a renewal, like an initial application, you still need to demonstrate your good reason for having a firearm. Having somewhere to use it has to be proved.

 

Remember though, that you only need to send of one permission slip.

[Imperfection]

you still need to demonstrate your good reason for having a firearm.

 

This.

 

Firearm ownage isnt a right in the uk.

[old'un]

With a renewal, like an initial application, you still need to demonstrate your good reason for having a firearm. Having somewhere to use it has to be proved.

 

Remember though, that you only need to send of one permission slip.

So it looks like the police don't think we would give an honest answer if asked the question....Do you still have land to shoot over....yes/no.

[steve_b_wales]

I had to provide proof of one farm when renewing my licence. Mine is also open.

[mossy835]

 

This.

 

Firearm ownage isnt a right in the uk.

 

 

 

+1

[Scully]

I had to provide proof of one farm when renewing my licence. Mine is also open.

Ditto.

[Dougy]

What's even more frustrating is changing a rifle like for like while your ticket is still in date. If I wanted to change my 30.06 for another one I still needed to prove good reason, even though it's already on my ticket and open for AOLQ.

So thought stuff it if I have to go through all that I won't bother.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So put in for a bigger one lol. Just waiting for ticket to drop through the letter box. ;-)

[Whitebridges]

With a renewal, like an initial application, you still need to demonstrate your good reason for having a firearm. Having somewhere to use it has to be proved.

 

Remember though, that you only need to send of one permission slip.

 

^This^^^

Going through my coterminous renewal with an open FAC at the moment and the requirement is to send in one permissions form although I have several permissions.

[old'un]

What's even more frustrating is changing a rifle like for like while your ticket is still in date. If I wanted to change my 30.06 for another one I still needed to prove good reason, even though it's already on my ticket and open for AOLQ.

So thought stuff it if I have to go through all that I won't bother.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So put in for a bigger one lol. Just waiting for ticket to drop through the letter box. ;-)

Hi Dougy, Yep its crazy the way its all run the same as you cannot have a coterminous ticket if your SGC runs out before your FAC, which is what happened in my case, my SGC run out last year and now my FAC is due, so now I can have a coterminous ticket.

[bullet1747]

Just done mine and it kicked in 23rd , One permission signed is all you need

[hawkeye]

Well when mine was up for renewal i just gave them the farmers name address and contact numbers NO PERMISSION SLIP

Ticket came through no problem spoke to the farmer and he said they had rang him and asked if i had permission to shoot his land,

he said yes and that was all they asked him...and i use 223 6.5x55 308 and 2 rimfire as well as my shotguns..

[hawkeye]

Hi Dougy, Yep its crazy the way its all run the same as you cannot have a coterminous ticket if your SGC runs out before your FAC, which is what happened in my case, my SGC run out last year and now my FAC is due, so now I can have a coterminous ticket.

yea they cancel your shotgun and you pay for it again at new rates but you don't get any rebate for the years still left to run on existing SGC..