team tractor Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 As title lads. How do you anneal ? Dougy on here has offered to sort my brass but he's helped me way to much so I'd like to do it myself . I've seen videos of just using a blow torch ? Is it a science or near enough job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 just bend your knees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted June 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 just bend your knees Not with these legs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 http://www.6mmbr.com/annealing.html http://www.massreloading.com/annealing.html http://www.sinclairintl.com/GunTech/The-Not-So-Arcane-Art-of-Brass-Annealing/detail.htm?lid=16032 I hand them over to a mate with all the gadgets and a good temperature gauge .. runs on a small Islay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 http://www.riflebrassrefurb.co.uk/annealing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) Accurate temperature is the most important, using 750f Tempilaq on the inside of the case neck will give you a good indication. Do not go by the case changing colour and never let it get "a dull red" or "cherry red" by the time it's that hot your brass is toast. One of the simplest methods is using a low speed drill with a socket to hold the case and a gas torch. You don't need to drop them into water just pinch a baking tray and drop them onto that. Make sure your cases are fully cleaned first, clean brass anneals easier than dirty brass And don't use timings off the internet, different makes of brass and your particular heat source will give you the correct time (using Tempilac as a guide). Edited June 25, 2017 by phaedra1106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) Some good videos of anealing set ups on the net to make your own. Edited June 25, 2017 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 Here's a couple of my homemade machines: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 TT, I don't mind. Just pop round and I will do them. But to be honest I would wait till you have a load. And sort into batches of the same make, as 1066 said it will fluff them up if you over do them. Incedently I can't see the templac inside the necks, I done see how you can unless you're doing 50's. But then my eyesight terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted June 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 TT, I don't mind. Just pop round and I will do them. But to be honest I would wait till you have a load. And sort into batches of the same make, as 1066 said it will fluff them up if you over do them. Incedently I can't see the templac inside the necks, I done see how you can unless you're doing 50's. But then my eyesight terrible. I've a batch I want doing in 243 cheers mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooter Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 I do all mine with a blow torch in a dark garage, but I do like the machine Mick Miller built.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 We need someone to make a uk value for money annealing machine really! Any PW massive ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 I do all mine with a blow torch in a dark garage, but I do like the machine Mick Miller built.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMEG-rbiBcg That's the one I have, simple and faultless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) To be fair, I had a great deal of assistance on the wiring and electronics side of things by Old No7 who kindly shared all his information with me, in return I think I might have assisted with a little improved code but I didn't even write that, it was coded by an Apple senior software engineer during a tea break! Still, it works a treat Edited June 26, 2017 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Do you sell any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 yhpm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) These are very popular, https://www.facebook.com/raptorvarminting/ Chap called Raptor sells them on UK Varminting, I have one and it's very good, costs about £170 including shipping from Bulgaria, I've lost count of the one's he's sold on the UKV forum Edited June 27, 2017 by phaedra1106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Yes, I can't even source the materials for that amount in the UK. However, there is no feedback on time for these, it's just a simple variable resistor to set the time, whereas our design uses an arduino and stepper motor to precisely time the exposure in quarter second increments, this is fed back to the user via an led display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadWasp Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 As title lads. How do you anneal ? Dougy on here has offered to sort my brass but he's helped me way to much so I'd like to do it myself . I've seen videos of just using a blow torch ? Is it a science or near enough job? alternatively Nath just eschew all the other calibres a get something as forgiving as a quarterbore.............15 firings in, never annealed and still dead on. Oh and add still dead on with 40 thou of throat erosion too.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadWasp Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) There's a RCO I know of in Merthyr who makes annealers for around the £200 mark. I've seen one demo'd and they are well made. I'll need to check his details for you through the club if you are interested. Dougy's seen them too. Edited June 27, 2017 by LeadWasp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 alternatively Nath just eschew all the other calibres a get something as forgiving as a quarterbore.............15 firings in, never annealed and still dead on. Oh and add still dead on with 40 thou of throat erosion too.............. I'm lost lol . Quarter bore ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 I'm lost lol . Quarter bore ? Nickname for a 25-06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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