Red-dot Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Is Kwiss on the list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Is Kwiss on the list? Didn't see him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 And we are all forced to contribute to those salaries under threat of legal action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 And we are all forced to contribute to those salaries under threat of legal action🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Is Kwiss on the list? If memory serves me right he's a freelancer and therefore not under employment contract to the BBC. His fee will be billed by his company and therefore will not appear on the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Freelance yeah i'd lance him for free.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 If memory serves me right he's a freelancer and therefore not under employment contract to the BBC. His fee will be billed by his company and therefore will not appear on the list Yep! and what's the betting they will now all arrange to be paid by the BBC through a separate " company" so their salaries too will not appear in future on the BBC employees salary public disclosure list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Yep! and what's the betting they will now all arrange to be paid by the BBC through a separate " company" so their salaries too will not appear in future on the BBC employees salary public disclosure list! Other than they're not allowed to... The ones that aren't on the list are those whose programme is made for the BBC but by an independent production company which was always the agreement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Other than they're not allowed to... The ones that aren't on the list are those whose programme is made for the BBC but by an independent production company which was always the agreement I see! So the BBC's (public) money was paid to an independent production company who then paid the artist/presenter?..........so for example, although the likes of Graham Norton only received a paltry £850K to £899K directly from the BBC......he also receives an unknown amount of BBC (public) money via payment for his services by an independent production company.......who are paid by the BBC? Sounds like the way forward to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) I think and hope the BBC has commited corporate suicide by publishing the earnings of these untalented parasites. Dont forget they earn on top from other work. I was off on ESA during cancer rehab and was expected to live on £74 a week. This country is just so divided. Edited July 19, 2017 by Red-dot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Whilst I am surprised how much some of these so called 'stars' earn I don't begrudge them it. If that is what they have been able to negotiate then good for them. Very few of us can justify what we get paid other than it's what somebody is prepared to pay you or if they don't somebody else will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Whilst I am surprised how much some of these so called 'stars' earn I don't begrudge them it. If that is what they have been able to negotiate then good for them. Very few of us can justify what we get paid other than it's what somebody is prepared to pay you or if they don't somebody else will. While it's a nice earner for them being paid a year what most bladder kickers earn in a week, what IS a royal ****-take is when the same meeka-luvvies front various charity tv ads expecting the minimum wage masses to dig deep for whatever cause they've clocked as a good means of free publicity & a quick route to an OBE or Knighthood.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 While it's a nice earner for them being paid a year what most bladder kickers earn in a week, what IS a royal ****-take is when the same meeka-luvvies front various charity tv ads expecting the minimum wage masses to dig deep for whatever cause they've clocked as a good means of free publicity & a quick route to an OBE or Knighthood.... If I appear a tad smug, it's because I don't pay for a tv license. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Whilst I am surprised how much some of these so called 'stars' earn I don't begrudge them it. If that is what they have been able to negotiate then good for them. Very few of us can justify what we get paid other than it's what somebody is prepared to pay you or if they don't somebody else will. I agree! If any of us were offered £2.2 mil p/a for a legal job of work..........we ain't gonna turn it down........are we? What I want to know is how do highly paid individuals (not just those in show business) get into that position in the first place? They ain't no different to or more intelligent than a many, many other people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 While it's a nice earner for them being paid a year what most bladder kickers earn in a week, what IS a royal ****-take is when the same meeka-luvvies front various charity tv ads expecting the minimum wage masses to dig deep for whatever cause they've clocked as a good means of free publicity & a quick route to an OBE or Knighthood.... Yes I agree their smugness and champagne socialist views do grate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 I think and hope the BBC has commited corporate suicide by publishing the earnings of these untalented parasites. Dont forget they earn on top from other work. I was off on ESA during cancer rehab and was expected to live on £74 a week. This country is just so divided. As much as folk on here don't want to.hear it it's a symptom.of the party we have in power, the rich poor divide only heads one way as was shown by their predecessor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Other than they're not allowed to... The ones that aren't on the list are those whose programme is made for the BBC but by an independent production company which was always the agreement Not actually correct. Freelancers working for the BBC who have passed the BBC "status assessment test" are still able to bill for their services and be paid directly to their own company and therefore are not included in BBC employees pay figures because they are not contracted employees. What the BBC actually did was to review its arrangement for paying employees via private service companies, which is a completely different thing to paying genuine freelancers who are engaged on a self employed basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagboy Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 As much as folk on here don't want to.hear it it's a symptom.of the party we have in power, the rich poor divide only heads one way as was shown by their predecessor Rubbish,. New figs out today (on the BBC, no les) show that the divide has actually narrowed. Labour does f all for the poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 I think and hope the BBC has commited corporate suicide by publishing the earnings of these untalented parasites. Dont forget they earn on top from other work. I was off on ESA during cancer rehab and was expected to live on £74 a week. This country is just so divided. "Untalented parasites". I can understand if you don't particularly like those on the list, but to call them untalented is to be wholly unreasonable, they are all talented within their respective fields. Also how are they parasites? As to your second point, what is it that you are driving at? They should earn less because the ESA amount is small, or the ESA should be higher because some people earn a lot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Obviously you are doing OK? These people should try living on what the government say is the amount a human needs to live on. If the BBC folded tomorrow i wouldn't shed a tear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 hello, i dare not look at the list as it makes me very ****** when you consider there are senior citizens and people on very low incomes who struggle to pay their licence fee, as for the top earners i would not pay them in horse **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Yes OPP the goons harrass the poor to pay the rich... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 I see! So the BBC's (public) money was paid to an independent production company who then paid the artist/presenter?..........so for example, although the likes of Graham Norton only received a paltry £850K to £899K directly from the BBC......he also receives an unknown amount of BBC (public) money via payment for his services by an independent production company.......who are paid by the BBC? Sounds like the way forward to me! Further to this it seems Graham Norton owns the independent production company that makes his programs for the BBC! As indeed do many of the "stars" on the BBC's published rich list (and for that reason many that do not appear on the list at all!!) It appears to be a way of hiding their true "earnings" paid for by the BBC (out of public money) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 ....they are all talented within their respective fields. Not much evidence of talent whenever Clamidia Winksatmen is on the idiot box. You'd think that earning over £400K a year she could afford to get her fringe trimmed to somewhere above her eyeline & have her squint fixed: though she'd need to then work on a new USP - or just make sure her mother pulls the strings again to get her a few more easy jobs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Obviously you are doing OK? These people should try living on what the government say is the amount a human needs to live on. If the BBC folded tomorrow i wouldn't shed a tear. How on earth can you assume from me asking you a question that I am doing OK? Is your objection that some people earn a lot? I would be hugely disappointed if the BBC folded, aside from the wages to a very small number of very well paid people the BBC employ 20,000+ people directly and there will be as many people again who indirectly rely on the BBC. The vast majority of that number will be on regular wages. It would be desperately bad news for an organisation that size to fold, but then again maybe the cost is worth it for those who hate the Beeb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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