Buck100 Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Hi all, i applied for three .22 rimfires on my fac but my feo said that i should put down for one initially, then go for a variation. I thought that was a bit unusual but ok i'll go along with that. Now i've got a bolt action rimfire i applied for a variation for a semi auto. My feo came to see me and wanted to know why i need another .22 rifle and said i'd have to justify the use for it. I've told my fellow club members and the secretary this and they are as confused as me, has this happened to any of you good people and is the feo being a "jobsworth"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Best thing to do .is say you want to set one up as a dedicated night vision gun with nv scope ..the other a day scope gun only . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck100 Posted April 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 As i only target shoot at my gun club will that be a valid reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYA117 Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 One to be set up with sub sonic ammunition and the other with non, it worked for me years ago !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck100 Posted April 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 I'll ring him up and try that on him, is he being unreasonable do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYA117 Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 An FEO being unreasonable, surely not ! ACPO would be proud of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck100 Posted April 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 I was thinking telling him that my B/A is for bench rest and the S/A would be for free hand seeing as my B/A is fairly heavy. I just need something to convince him.......he's hard work !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 The way the law stands, I'm afraid that your FEO is right. It's for the applicant to state good reason for each firearm applied for. I don't think that he's being unreasonable. I remember wanting an under lever and applied for one as a small lightweight one for off-hand woodland shooting, my bolt actions for bipod shooting of rabbits and (back before I had any sense), an HMR for longer shots, and then a WMR single shot for fox and target. I got them all. If you can't state a good reason, they will not oblige you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) What disciplines do you shoot at the club? explain to him why the 3 rifles need to be different to allow you to be competitive in 3 different types of shooting. He is correct the onus is on you to justify them all just maybe not been helpful in explaining why and how. Edited April 17, 2018 by welshwarrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Your good reason is target shooting with your club. What disciplines do you shoot and at what distances. I asked for 2 22lr because we shoot 2 different disciplines, prone target rifle (bolt) and light sports rifle (semi auto), mine were granted with no further questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 10 hours ago, Ultrastu said: Best thing to do .is say you want to set one up as a dedicated night vision gun with nv scope ..the other a day scope gun only . I got my second one without any questions asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Savhmr said: The way the law stands, I'm afraid that your FEO is right. It's for the applicant to state good reason for each firearm applied for. I don't think that he's being unreasonable. I remember wanting an under lever and applied for one as a small lightweight one for off-hand woodland shooting, my bolt actions for bipod shooting of rabbits and (back before I had any sense), an HMR for longer shots, and then a WMR single shot for fox and target. I got them all. If you can't state a good reason, they will not oblige you. 4 hours ago, welshwarrior said: What disciplines do you shoot at the club? explain to him why the 3 rifles need to be different to allow you to be competitive in 3 different types of shooting. He is correct the onus is on you to justify them all just maybe not been helpful in explaining why and how. That's about the size of it, I struggle to understand why your Club members/secretary are confused! YOU need to justify every gun/calibre! If you only use the rifles at a gun club you will need GOOD reason why you want additional in the same calibre, night vision may be tricky! At one stage I did run 3 x .22LR, but had a good reason which will not apply to you, I'm down to 2 at the moment, but that's all I want! Edited April 17, 2018 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Egsamples of diciplines 1x underlever for antique unscoped 1x benchrest for ukbr22 1x sako for standing scoped 1x target rifle for prone open sight 1x FAC air ...you cannot have this as there are not any reason..no fac air target diciplines. The disaplines above require a difrant type of rifle for each Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 9 hours ago, rimfire4969 said: I got my second one without any questions asked. Same here. For NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck100 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Thanks guys, i'll see what he says, he's supposed to get in touch tomorrow, so fingers crossed. I appreciate all your comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 i asked for 2 years ago. but only got one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 I will be applying for my fac soon and will apply for 3. Bench rest Prone Sporting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck100 Posted April 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr.C said: I will be applying for my fac soon and will apply for 3. Bench rest Prone Sporting \i hope you have better luck than me bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck100 Posted April 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 I dropped in the Police HQ today and spoke to a member of the firearms department re my variation progress and he told me that it had been processed waiting for authorisation with the two .22lr rifles that i had put in for. Maybe the FEO had a change of heart and okayed them. Anyway, just got to wait in the queue now, was told maybe a week or two. Happy days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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