Old farrier Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Penelope said: Show off! I hope to put as much game and species into the bag with it as you have with your English gun 😊👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 3 hours ago, London Best said: I see from your other post you did!!! more details please, age, any known history. You can’t just buy a Purdey like it was a machine made modern thing from anywhere, you (we) need to know all about it, please. Well what’s to say its fairly modern 1970s 2.3/4 chambers 28 inch barrels Churchill style rib bores measure as made 27 thou wall thickness as made and weighed in at 6lb 4oz stock is to my measurements when the pads fitted took a bit of finding and I looked at a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Thank you. Looks very nice indeed. Just to my taste. Hopefully you will enjoy it for many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Old farrier said: Well what’s to say its fairly modern 1970s 2.3/4 chambers 28 inch barrels Churchill style rib bores measure as made 27 thou wall thickness as made and weighed in at 6lb 4oz stock is to my measurements when the pads fitted took a bit of finding and I looked at a lot Beautiful - enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 5 hours ago, button said: Beautiful - enjoy Thanks I hope to 😊 Here’s another one I looked at if anyone wants to spend there kids inheritance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 I also found this one although I think it was being made as a gift for one of the moderators on here 🤭 PW staff bonus 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibble Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Bought a project, wasn't even drunk. Anybody know if there are any problems getting a gun sold as nvsn, which I'm guessing means no visible serial number, on your certificate? Or what that missing pin in the action does. Or if it's actually difficult to resolder a rib, the American man on Youtube makes it look easy and he can't even pronounce soLder Or why a bit of that dolls head bit seems to be missing. Is that a dent just ahead of the (2 1/2") chambers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 No problems with novena, I have one. The missing pin is the axle for the strikers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibble Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 "Novena"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Guns with NVSN just get entered on your ticket as NVSN - sometimes they might ask for particular or identifying features but its not an issue there are thousands out there with no S/N. Is the pin missing or is it just short or broken off? not a big issue but will need addressing, from pin goes through the cocking dogs, middle pin goes through the hammers/strikers, rear pin goes trough the sears. As for Re laying ribs, its pretty uncommon that you can get away with bodging them back together, there is usually old rust, soldier and flux floating around in the rib cavity. If you are careful you can lift the top rib leaving the others in place, clean the cavity, tin the mating surfaces make sure to neutralize if your tinning compound is acidic wire everything back up and relay, you need some parallel surfaces to set the barrels on while doing this, non galvanised annealed iron wire to wire the tubes and ribs together with, rosin flux is best, tin lead soldier, you want to gently clamp the muzzles and watch the flux, you want it melted and hot enough for the soldier to run but without burning the flux ideally. Do not get the barrels too hot, horse shoe nails are ideal for going under the wires and clamping down on the ribs to hold everything in place, go steady and ensure everything is straight as a die. Clean and clean and clean again once everything has cooled, then re blue. Its quite an involved process, genuinely takes me the best part of a day to clean strip and re lay everything and Ive done it a few times now. Attached video of your typical rib cavity - and no i'm not using my best chisel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dibble said: "Novena"? D*m*ed predictive text! N V S N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibble Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 37 minutes ago, London Best said: D*m*ed predictive text! N V S N. I googled Novena and was worried you were suggestion I should pray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibble Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Thanks for the advice Demonwolf444, I feel a bit guilty as I bought this project to talk myself out of buying an AYA XXV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) First and foremost ignore anything you see on the comedy channels , sometimes called Midway guns fronted by a bloke called Larry . Rib relaying is a simple job of which I have done hundreds . That said like all simple jobs it is only simple when you know how and there are a number of things that are not always obvious at the start . Like how best to support them whilst soldering ,how many times to turn them , how many wire and at what spacing .Best solders and fluxes , type of torch , The list goes on . Preparation is a major part of the job and can make all the difference .One advantage of relaying ribs is that if it dose go wrong you can always start again . The missing body wire is the hammer axle . If it is missing then the hammers are not held in place which is putting a lot of strain on other action parts especially the hammer noses or strikers .As a result extreme caution will be needed when stripping as they are liable to fly out . Numbers , again no problem , I came across many provincial guns with no number ,so simple answer is to give them one .Just think of any 4 random numbers 4281 for example and stamp it on to the action and barrel . Edited June 29, 2019 by Gunman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibble Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 Is it best to clamp the barrels to something solid, maybe the table of my milling machine, or just wire them together? If it's a 2 1/2" chamber any idea how old it is. I'might not picking it up till the 11th so just getting ideas together at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 Dibble I will send you a outline of what to do and how to go about it , what you will need in the way of equipment etc next week when I have more time . Dating can be done within a window of years from proof marks and barrel addresses . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibble Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 Cheers Gunman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord v Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 Took the Tula out for the second time yesterday. Lovely and light. Smooth shooting, 28g 5's felt like 21g 7.5s from a 12 guage. Wonderfully balanced. Got many admiring comments with most mistaking it for an old English gun. Didn't shoot too badly with it either. My only slight complaint is the choking of what is apparently full and extra extra extra full.... 😂 I have suspicion that the intention was that you have shot in the full barrel and slug in the xxx full. It's pretty much my go to gun now though. One question - I would really like a leather hand guard as my hand rests just at the end of the for end. Are there any that are less than £40? I kinda object to spending that much for what is basically a very small piece of shaped leather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lord v said: Took the Tula out for the second time yesterday. Lovely and light. Smooth shooting, 28g 5's felt like 21g 7.5s from a 12 guage. Wonderfully balanced. Got many admiring comments with most mistaking it for an old English gun. Didn't shoot too badly with it either. My only slight complaint is the choking of what is apparently full and extra extra extra full.... 😂 I have suspicion that the intention was that you have shot in the full barrel and slug in the xxx full. It's pretty much my go to gun now though. One question - I would really like a leather hand guard as my hand rests just at the end of the for end. Are there any that are less than £40? I kinda object to spending that much for what is basically a very small piece of shaped leather. Glad you’re enjoying the gun just wear a glove on your left hand 🖐😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lord v said: One question - I would really like a leather hand guard as my hand rests just at the end of the for end. Are there any that are less than £40? I kinda object to spending that much for what is basically a very small piece of shaped leather. I don't know where you would get one - I have a couple in 12, but rarely use them because; They tend to slide (towards the muzzles) unless very tight They can mark the bluing They have to be bent to fit (there is a steel inner) and don't swap that well between guns. (Too tight/too loose) What I prefer is a glove on the left hand when the barrels are likely to get hot Edited July 1, 2019 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 It’s a side by side! Your hand is supposed to rest just at the end of the fore end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord v Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, London Best said: It’s a side by side! Your hand is supposed to rest just at the end of the fore end. Well. Yes. 🤔 Not the question, but thanks. Just want to avoid some minor discomfort.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 I never use anything but side by sides and regularly fire over 30 shots through mine in eight or ten minutes (on partridge drives) and that does not get them too hot to handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 I bought one years ago from William Powell to match my Powell gun, primarily for driven Grouse shooting.............but have never needed it!...........I wouldn't bother, just stuff a thin leather glove in your pocket just in case! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord v Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, London Best said: I never use anything but side by sides and regularly fire over 30 shots through mine in eight or ten minutes (on partridge drives) and that does not get them too hot to handle. Well done you. I happened to be on some clays so was shooting at twice that rate. Thanks to all that had helpful suggestions... I will channel my inner Jackson and look at a glove for the rare time I may need it... 👍 Edited July 1, 2019 by Lord v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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