Lloyd90 Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Up my mates house this evening and he goes “I’ve an old blank firing pistol you could use” and goes off to his shed to produce a 22 blank revolver that’s all black. Now he bought it in 1980 so believe he is fine to keep it, although I told him I’m not sure if legal or not. Also would it be legal for me to use for training my dog or not? I’m not buying it as he wants it back when dogs past the blank firer stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: Up my mates house this evening and he goes “I’ve an old blank firing pistol you could use” and goes off to his shed to produce a 22 blank revolver that’s all black. Now he bought it in 1980 so believe he is fine to keep it, although I told him I’m not sure if legal or not. Also would it be legal for me to use for training my dog or not? I’m not buying it as he wants it back when dogs past the blank firer stage. New blank firers are painted Orange. I think it's okay for you to use it though, as it's an 'old' model. You could ask your FEO just to make sure though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Orange spray paint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Be mindful that the starter pistol even using .22 short blanks is a loud bang don't be in a hurry to introduce the pup to it. Some people even use long blanks but there's no point stick with the shorts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Strange you posted this Lloyd.... I have one that I want to sell - found this helpful https://www.mg-props.co.uk/vcr-uk_bill.htm all the best Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted August 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 hour ago, B725 said: Be mindful that the starter pistol even using .22 short blanks is a loud bang don't be in a hurry to introduce the pup to it. Some people even use long blanks but there's no point stick with the shorts I’m not planning on using it for absolute ages mate, just my mate remembered he had one as I’ve got a pup recently. Atm all I’m doing is clapping my hands etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted August 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 39 minutes ago, WelshAndy said: Strange you posted this Lloyd.... I have one that I want to sell - found this helpful https://www.mg-props.co.uk/vcr-uk_bill.htm all the best Andy Seems to quote only for sales... no mention of lending one ? one could assume that means it’s ok lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainBeaky Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: Seems to quote only for sales... no mention of lending one ? one could assume that means it’s ok lol That's the "make available" bit, I believe. It doesn't appear that the defences include use for dog training, so you might be on slightly iffy ground there. VCRA is a horrible mess of legislation, with which I have to deal when loaning out stage weaponry. My FEO wasn't much help when I asked, as it isn't strictly firearms law. Edited August 7, 2018 by CaptainBeaky Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted August 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 hour ago, CaptainBeaky said: That's the "make available" bit, I believe. It doesn't appear that the defences include use for dog training, so you might be on slightly iffy ground there. VCRA is a horrible mess of legislation, with which I have to deal when loaning out stage weaponry. My FEO wasn't much help when I asked, as it isn't strictly firearms law. I might just spray the bloody think orange just to be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainBeaky Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: I might just spray the bloody think orange just to be safe. That would probably be safest ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fse10 Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Just make sure it's not an olympic 22 starter pistol as these are banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricko Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, fse10 said: Just make sure it's not an olympic 22 starter pistol as these are banned. It was the Olympic .380 that was banned, I handed in two of them. They were deemed to be too easy to convert. I replaced them with a legal, orange, Olympic. 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW95J Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 Yes, the .22's are fine just the .380 that had issues. Got a .22 kicking about but it's knackered. Needs a new hammer spring (long story) which I have ready- however getting the thing installed is easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricko Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 The Olympic .22 is quite poor in build quality to the old Olympic .380 made by Bruni, I wish I hadn't had to surrender them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 There is no need to bother with a blank firer, in my opinion. As I have mentioned elsewhere, other methods are easier and less hassle. I trained my most recent dog with a toy cap-gun in the house, and a .410 in the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgun gav Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 a On 06/08/2018 at 22:14, WelshAndy said: Strange you posted this Lloyd.... I have one that I want to sell - found this helpful https://www.mg-props.co.uk/vcr-uk_bill.htm all the best Andy are u still selling yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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