TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 21/01/2019 at 10:27, Dibble said: The desire to find s technological answer to a problem (or fiddle around with stuff) seems a fundamental part of human (Male) nature, I know a Carp fisherman who has a 3000 pound Bait Boat, GPS controlled to deliver his hook and groundbait precisely where he wants, it also has fish finding sonar. A golf playing colleague has a GPS watch that automatically tells him the precise distance to the nearest hole. I have the same tendency and went down the 30" multichoke sporter route and researched the advantages of 7.5 or 8 shot, thought maybe size 9 and open choke would help me on some stands I should buy a box of those as well, a green glowing bead might help.......maybe fix a GoPro to the barrel.........Some Yellow Glasses.........Extended Choke Tubes.... Of course this gives Gun Dealers a lot of other Stuff to sell. The joy of a nice SxS is you just pick it up and shoot it, your only choice is what trigger to pull first, I came of some stands on Sunday grinning, generally the short range, fast moving ones. If you know where the clay is coming from and going to heavy O/Us have the advantage and people seem to call No Bird if its slightly off line, I have a crack at them. I miss a lot on the more "Aimed" stands, but feel I miss with style. All too true, but the point about heavy O/Us for clays is that it reduces the felt recoil whilst shooting lots of targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 Now that is just what I mean. How can an O/U under compare with that for class.😍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpredder Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: .... the point about heavy O/Us for clays is that it reduces the felt recoil whilst shooting lots of targets. ..... and presumably the same must apply to a heavy S/S. Won't the felt recoil be governed mainly by weight and stock dimensions, rather than by orientation of the barrels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 37 minutes ago, McSpredder said: ..... and presumably the same must apply to a heavy S/S. Won't the felt recoil be governed mainly by weight and stock dimensions, rather than by orientation of the barrels? Not nessesarily so there 2 totally different things however the off the shelf ou will suit most people and be forgiving gun fit is most important with a side by side a badley fitting one will knock you to pieces on a heavy days shooting cost of production is the main reason the ou is popular they can be produced far cheaper than the equivalent ss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Old farrier said: cost of production is the main reason the ou is popular they can be produced far cheaper than the equivalent ss Is that really right? Or is it simply that far more made makes it cheaper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prem1234 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Graham M said: Now that is just what I mean. How can an O/U under compare with that for class.😍 👍 ......I agree but I am biased Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: Is that really right? Or is it simply that far more made makes it cheaper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuddster Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 I own three. 30" 20b Arrietta round action 25" AYA XXV 12b boxlock 28" Ward rotrary action black powder dated about 1895. each brings me joy when ever handled and shot-some days i just fancy a sbs. perhaps they'll be out of fashion in about 100 years time. f. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 There construction is going to be cheaper as there heavy easy to get the barrels to converge cheaper to stock just my thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 10 hours ago, McSpredder said: ..... and presumably the same must apply to a heavy S/S. Won't the felt recoil be governed mainly by weight and stock dimensions, rather than by orientation of the barrels? Yes I guess it would, my heaviest SxS is nearly 7lb in weight, my heaviest O/U over 8 1/2, that is where the difference lies. If shooting a driven day I go with a nice light SxS. If shooting a 100 or more clays I stick to a nice long heavy O/U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpredder Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: If shooting a 100 or more clays I stick to a nice long heavy O/U. An alternative might be a nice long heavy S/S. Something like an AYA Super Solway with 32" barrels and weighing about 8lb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 29 minutes ago, McSpredder said: An alternative might be a nice long heavy S/S. Something like an AYA Super Solway with 32" barrels and weighing about 8lb. Yes that would be an option, but I shall continue to use my SxS's for game and Pigeons and my O/Us for clays. It seems to work quite well that way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Is the recoil aspect of the o/us weight over the SxSs relevant now? . Back in the day when i shot trap 32 gram or more then yes recoil was an aspect, but now they shoot 24 gram dont they? a 6 1/2 lb game gun IF IT FITS YOU! Should be just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibble Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 I shoot 24G and happily shoot 100 clays. You are throwing 15% less lead at the clay so it probably affects my score, they are cheaper though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, B B said: Is the recoil aspect of the o/us weight over the SxSs relevant now? . Back in the day when i shot trap 32 gram or more then yes recoil was an aspect, but now they shoot 24 gram dont they? a 6 1/2 lb game gun IF IT FITS YOU! Should be just fine. 2 hours ago, Dibble said: I shoot 24G and happily shoot 100 clays. You are throwing 15% less lead at the clay so it probably affects my score, they are cheaper though. Horses for courses, I take my clays reasonably seriously, so do not cut down on the amount of lead in each shell, that way if I do my bit and the choke and cartridge combination are good it will result in a broken clay. I shoot similar ounces of shot from the SxS's and the main advantage is the light weight of the gun. I wouldn't dream of taking any of the 32" O/U's out on the game days, I have done it on the pigeons and saw no advantage. Edited January 25, 2019 by TIGHTCHOKE Syntax! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPhantom Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 I switched to 24g in my SxS a couple of years back for clays and haven't noticed any deterioration in my scores. Shooting 100 28g in a relatively short space of time was not that pleasant for me. Wasn't expecting there to be much difference but I found the 24g way more comfortable to shoot and didn't feel in any way disadvantaged by the lighter load. I'm tempted to try a round with 21g but I suspect that might be a step too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prem1234 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, MrPhantom said: I switched to 24g in my SxS a couple of years back for clays and haven't noticed any deterioration in my scores. Shooting 100 28g in a relatively short space of time was not that pleasant for me. Wasn't expecting there to be much difference but I found the 24g way more comfortable to shoot and didn't feel in any way disadvantaged by the lighter load. I'm tempted to try a round with 21g but I suspect that might be a step too far. be interesting how you got on if you did....I went through a slab of Hull Comp X 21gr and did not notice the difference on my scoring on sporting clays.... Edited January 25, 2019 by prem1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 5 hours ago, MrPhantom said: Wasn't expecting there to be much difference but I found the 24g way more comfortable to shoot and didn't feel in any way disadvantaged by the lighter load. I'm tempted to try a round with 21g but I suspect that might be a step too far. Agreed and I actually now use 21g (Hull CompX) for all my clays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 53 minutes ago, prem1234 said: be interesting how you got on if you did....I went through a slab of Hull Comp X 21gr and did not notice the difference on my scoring on sporting clays.... +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 side x side shotguns are NOT OBSOLETE.............................................. their owners are.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Just now, ditchman said: side x side shotguns are NOT OBSOLETE.............................................. their owners are.............. As an owner ........ I'm not obsolete ........ though some think some of my views are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, JohnfromUK said: As an owner ........ I'm not obsolete ........ though some think some of my views are. im an owner always have been ..shot nothing else..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prem1234 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, ditchman said: side x side shotguns are NOT OBSOLETE.............................................. their owners are.............. "many a good tune played on an old fiddle".....I mean obsolete fiddle 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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