Vince Green Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 I find today that McAvoy Guns will not sell me plain lead bullets for reloading my .38 until I send them a copy of my FAC. Now I have nothing to hide, but I have told them that, on principal, such a request is not legal and I will be placing my order else where. Which I have Its probably, almost definitely, not their fault and I don't blame them at all, but we have to resist this creeping illegal regulation. In this case apparently from Greater Manchester Police Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Shredder. Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 Fair enough, it's your choice to buy from who ever you want with the least hassle. Man after my own heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW95J Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 The powers that be are working themselves up a bit over reloading. After hearing that people were reloading for obsolete calibres I think they'll try and crack down. Was that RFD case not actually in Manchester(?) I just read in the Shooting Times this month that there is further debate about regulating antique and obsolete guns. I was very disappointed to see that BASC haven't released anything regarding this recently. Now is the time to start buying Section 58! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 9 hours ago, Vince Green said: I find today that McAvoy Guns will not sell me plain lead bullets for reloading my .38 until I send them a copy of my FAC. Now I have nothing to hide, but I have told them that, on principal, such a request is not legal and I will be placing my order else where. Which I have Its probably, almost definitely, not their fault and I don't blame them at all, but we have to resist this creeping illegal regulation. In this case apparently from Greater Manchester Police was this a phone order or did you go there ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 10 hours ago, Vince Green said: I find today that McAvoy Guns will not sell me plain lead bullets for reloading my .38 until I send them a copy of my FAC. Now I have nothing to hide, but I have told them that, on principal, such a request is not legal and I will be placing my order else where. Which I have Its probably, almost definitely, not their fault and I don't blame them at all, but we have to resist this creeping illegal regulation. In this case apparently from Greater Manchester Police Well done. It’s a ridiculous request at what is probably on the behest of their licensing authority, as you say. Some of the lads used to cast and swage their own which totally negates the licensing authority request. They need to concentrate on where the primers are coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, davewh100 said: was this a phone order or did you go there ? It comes up on their website when you try to order, so I phoned to query it They have some S&B FMJ 158grn .38s for a good price. probably old stock but well worth buying a few hundred while they are at that price. Its not them its Greater Manchester Police that are asking for proof Edited January 29, 2019 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Vince Green said: It comes up on their website when you try to order, so I phoned to query it They have some S&B FMJ 158grn .38s for a good price. probably old stock but well worth buying a few hundred while they are at that price. Its not them its Greater Manchester Police that are asking for proof ahh ok lads there craig and mark are allways very helpful see your problem now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord v Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 7 hours ago, Scully said: They need to concentrate on where the primers are coming from. Absolutely. Dunno why they are worried about bits of lead, brass or steel that are legal materials to own for a whole host of reasons. They should be worried about the bits that go pop that are only used for one reason.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lever357 Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 The website actually states: Whilst an FAC is not required to purchase these heads, we have been asked by GMP to request proof of a license prior to sale for a small number of pistol calibers; .25, .32, 9mm Makarov & 9mm Browning So no mention of .38 special. Also £16.75 for 100 isnt cheap when Shellhouse bullet co are just over £30 for 500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remimax Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 like you say tis a bit silly when you can cast your own in the comfort of yer home . do you have to show your licence to buy a LEE mould off them as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 Sportsman won’t sent expanding heads to a residential property they have to go to an rfd🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 Any shop that doesn't call a bullet a bullet and calls it a 'head' instead clearly knows next to nothing about anything of worth, on that basis only I wouldn't do any business with them. Besides, I order every bullet I use from Germany, about half the price even when you factor in shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted April 11, 2019 Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 Oh no - I'm not going to need to stamp serial numbers on all my bullet mounds now am I? (Unfortunately I don't have any head moulds) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonno243 Posted April 21, 2019 Report Share Posted April 21, 2019 On 11/04/2019 at 14:37, super sharp shooter said: Sportsman won’t sent expanding heads to a residential property they have to go to an rfd🤷♂️ Is this a recent thing? They sent me ELD-X last year with no problems (other than waiting a hell of a long time to get them in stock...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy RV Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 I’ve had expanding bullets from sportsman through the post with no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 That’s what it says on the website 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 Since expanding are no longer on S5 (1A)(f) it's perfectly legal to sell mail order or to buy mail order without proof of FAC. Any outlet refusing to do that then I'd go elsewhere. I've had it requested to send my FAC/Shotgun cert via .jpg before ammo parts/shotgun carts were bought and won't be complying with that as 1) it's not legal to copy your certificates and supply to someone else and 2) all they need is your cert number to check with your certifying authority. Things have just got plain silly and out of hand. I can understand a central Manchester outfit wanting to be careful where say handgun ammo is concerned (even bullets) but not where hunting cals are concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 wasnt there a home made factory that was churning out hundreds of bullets a week for criminals? a quick google search shows were a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 On 08/05/2019 at 15:21, cookoff013 said: wasnt there a home made factory that was churning out hundreds of bullets a week for criminals? a quick google search shows were a few Not much use to criminals without the rest of the components though are they? Or did you mean a criminal gang turning out hundreds of cartridges instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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