Tford Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) Hi, I've put in for a 410 shot pistol (for pest control around farm buildings, and humane dispatch of trapped fox). I'm aware of their limitations, so don't need telling that they are useless anywhere past a few yards! My question however is whether the 410 Taurus judge appears on the UK market these days, as currently I can only see the bond arms double and the pig-ugly falco folder. Any .410 shot pistol owners out there with purchasing advice? If not I may change my request to a 22lr pistol for the humane dispatch element only Thanks Trevor Edited February 3, 2019 by Tford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 The only thing with the Taurus and bond arms is they are chambered 410 and .45 long colt so that could cause problems plus the silly little grip and heavy trigger on the bond arms don't make it much fun to use used a .357 it was a horrible thing to use. As to being able to find a Taurus in the uk I couldn't tell you, but holts some times have 410 pistols in their auctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) bit expensive. 45colt /. 410 - if you cant find. 410 listed they will be under 45 colt Edited February 3, 2019 by strimmer_13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted February 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Hmm wonder whether that’d stop the police accepting... being capable of .45 colt as well. Although obviously if I can’t purchase .45colt then it shouldn’t be an issue?! Maybe?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Not too sure but i think the .410 only comes with a rifled barrel. Dont think its 3'' either. Probably wrong on all accounts. Id imagine that pistol in particular will be hard to get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted February 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Hmm. No doubt the FEO will have a view, I’ll see what they say and if need be adjust my plan. Main thing is dispatch of trapped foxes, thought a shot pistol in 410 would be ideal. Open to other ideas! Thanks for your thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Tford said: Hmm. No doubt the FEO will have a view, I’ll see what they say and if need be adjust my plan. Main thing is dispatch of trapped foxes, thought a shot pistol in 410 would be ideal. Open to other ideas! Thanks for your thoughts. I would go for a hushpower 410 for trapped foxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossy 666 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 I put in for the same and was told No! The said the only way they would issue it would be 1. Licensed slaughter man 2. Part of the hunt they allow one on that incase they have a horse fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted February 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, crossy 666 said: I put in for the same and was told No! The said the only way they would issue it would be 1. Licensed slaughter man 2. Part of the hunt they allow one on that incase they have a horse fall. But there is an exemption under the act for shot pistols for pest control in and around farm buildings (i.e not one of the above)... so theoretical they should grant if good enough reason. The pest control (qualified pest controller) and dispatch of trapped foxes is my other part of that reason... but probably a main part fingers crossed though Edited February 3, 2019 by Tford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James horsfield Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 Some shop is selling a single & double barrel one of these £200 & £300 🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 Why can’t you just use a normal shotgun, either 410 or any other Bore to dispatch fox in a trap? I used a SbS 410 on a trapped fox very effective. If anything it was easier having longer barrels as you can aim it much easier and don’t have to get too close incase of any richochet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbob Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Lloyd90 said: Why can’t you just use a normal shotgun, either 410 or any other Bore to dispatch fox in a trap? I used a SbS 410 on a trapped fox very effective. If anything it was easier having longer barrels as you can aim it much easier and don’t have to get too close incase of any richochet. Think I'd have to agree with this. Surely .410 bolt or SXS would do the same job and be more useful too out in a field etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 hours ago, James horsfield said: Some shop is selling a single & double barrel one of these £200 & £300 🤷🏻♂️ Thanks for posting; the single on the right is simply exquisite. As others have said, and as big a handgun buff as I am, I'd just get a shotgun. Far more practical in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted February 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 thanks for the thoughts. There is a few reasons why I want a shot pistol instead of a full length shotgun, firstly in terms of pest control it’s much more discrete when trapping in close proximity to houses (a single shot won’t make much difference). It can be carried to the trap in a normal bag, fox dispatched, bagged and carried out with minimal visual attention of those uncomfortable with fox trapping/shooting. On the farm dispatch of livestock (sheep) more easily done in low roofed pigstys etc more easily done than with a full length shotgun etc. Although not to frequent. I know you could do all this with different options I.e folding 410... but I think this will suit. Whether the police agree is another question.... I’m assuming no, but you can only apply and find out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted March 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 On 03/02/2019 at 21:44, crossy 666 said: I put in for the same and was told No! The said the only way they would issue it would be 1. Licensed slaughter man 2. Part of the hunt they allow one on that incase they have a horse fall. Update - FAC granted for max 2 shot ‘410 shot pistol’ conditioned for humane dispatch of animals and in connection with my profession (and associated qualifications). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Some one told me about a dealer that has got some taurus .410 revolvers the other day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted March 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Interesting... any details? The rifling will have to already be bored out and restricted to two shot to maybe fit within the shot pistol requirements... doubt that’s happened. but still interested if you have the dealer name? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tford said: Interesting... any details? The rifling will have to already be bored out and restricted to two shot to maybe fit within the shot pistol requirements... doubt that’s happened. but still interested if you have the dealer name? thanks Sure he said they were stainless with a smooth bore but chambers not restricted yet. I will try to get a name out of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted March 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, bluesj said: Sure he said they were stainless with a smooth bore but chambers not restricted yet. I will try to get a name out of him Thanks. I’ll be sure to make enquiries if you can find out more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossy 666 Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 11 hours ago, Tford said: Update - FAC granted for max 2 shot ‘410 shot pistol’ conditioned for humane dispatch of animals and in connection with my profession (and associated qualifications). I only do pest control as on a part time basis and not my every day job like yourself. This might be the reason why I was refused mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Few links here that may be of interest… Barbican Armoury..http://barbicanarmoury.org.uk/products.html Hampshire smokery and gunroom..http://www.hampshiresmokeryandgunroom.co.uk/shooting/acatalog/ Severnside Arms..http://www.severnsidearms.co.uk/adverts/other-guns/humane-killers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted March 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson12 Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 On 03/02/2019 at 21:44, crossy 666 said: I put in for the same and was told No! The said the only way they would issue it would be 1. Licensed slaughter man 2. Part of the hunt they allow one on that incase they have a horse fall. Used one in hunt service but single shot .38 vets get the ticket most slaughterman tbh use either accles and shelvoke or a cow puncher for the job ps I also did this for a living Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddoakley Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 Try c&g firearms. I've just picked up a nice ruger .357 from them. They seemed to be able to source most things. Edd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted April 6, 2019 Report Share Posted April 6, 2019 Gavin Gardiner auctions have a s/s 410 shot pistol in their next auction on May 1st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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