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Hi has anyone got a .17WSM, I was wanting to get a .17HMR but not sure now. Any info appreciated! I currently have a .17Hornet but don't have the time to ever get into reloading for it. And at £1.04 per round it's expensive to shoot crows/rabbits ect with. Thanks!

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Will not do anything better thn the HMR.  The Hornet is a great little round but to be honest that will not do much better than the HMR either but being reloadable perhaps it is slightly cheaper if you reload.  

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Lot cheaper if you reload 35pence each to make up that’s a good saving 

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Decent round apparently. just need all manufacturers to get on board. The savage is a little agricultural when i looked

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1 hour ago, snow white said:

Lot cheaper if you reload 35pence each to make up that’s a good saving 

I didn't think you could reload .17WSM as it is rimfire? 

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2 hours ago, Walker570 said:

Will not do anything better thn the HMR.  The Hornet is a great little round but to be honest that will not do much better than the HMR either but being reloadable perhaps it is slightly cheaper if you reload.  

If i had the time to reload i would but i just sadly haven't. So it's between the the .17HMR or .17WSM

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52 minutes ago, squirrel shooter said:

If i had the time to reload i would but i just sadly haven't. So it's between the the .17HMR or .17WSM

At the moment, I'd be inclined to stay with the HMR. I got off to a bad start with mine with regards to split cases and accuracy as a result. However, once that batch of ammo was used up I had no problems subsequently using Remingtons which were deadly accurate in my Anschutz. I've just bought a WSM and initially because I've had trouble with my fingers because of arthritis I thought it was down to me. However, the treatment has kicked in and I'm now convinced that the problem with the far too frequent 'fliers' is not down to me but the ammunition. The Savage bolt cocks on closing so it requires a little effort. With the 'little effort' all is well but all too often it's more than a little and it is when this occurs that a flier results. I'm now convinced that it's the irregular sized ammo that is the problem. Currently, our choice is Hobson's which doesn't help. At the moment, that's as far as I've got and am trying to think of the way ahead. In all probability it's fine for fox out to the maximum range I envisage using it for that purpose, but for longer range rabbit and corvid use, it's very probably a no no.

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On 11/03/2019 at 08:20, Walker570 said:

Will not do anything better thn the HMR.  The Hornet is a great little round but to be honest that will not do much better than the HMR either but being reloadable perhaps it is slightly cheaper if you reload.  

extra 1000 fps and able to tune for es and accuracy . hornet is a big margin better than any hmr i have owned. 10.2 grains of powder means a tub of bit lasts a long time. don't mean to hmr bash but just my experience that the hornet is in a different league.

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14 minutes ago, zx10mike said:

extra 1000 fps and able to tune for es and accuracy . hornet is a big margin better than any hmr i have owned. 10.2 grains of powder means a tub of bit lasts a long time. don't mean to hmr bash but just my experience that the hornet is in a different league.

Totally agree.....

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Yes, but if I have a situation where I need more reach than 170-190yrds then I will take the 17 Rem....in fact I will probably take the 17 Rem anyway if long distances are required. The 17HMR tends to be a sub 150 rifle for me.  Anything I can't do with the 17 Rem I upgrade to the 22 Bench Rest and a 50gr Barnes TTSX and very often I will have two rifles with me.

As said I believe the little 17 Hornet will do the job .... choices choices

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The way to go with a .17hornet seems to be reloading. I've never done any before, any advice on where to start off at, what kit will I need to get started. Thanks in advance! 

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9 hours ago, squirrel shooter said:

The way to go with a .17hornet seems to be reloading. I've never done any before, any advice on where to start off at, what kit will I need to get started. Thanks in advance! 

the best place to spend a bit extra is scales .i use gem pro 250 that register each kernel and are + or_ one kernel accurate. the scales where about £200 but you can get some goon balance beam scales for sub £100. you will need a press ,a lee will do the job .keep an eye out for second hand.hornet dies are about 35 pounds very cheap.all my reloading gear i tend to buy the best but the gear i have said will do the job.if you put a shout out for someone local to show you the ropes in reloading i'm sure someone will.your welcome over to mine in leicester if you ever want to see how easy it is to build good ammo.the 2 pictures i post are the hornet loads i'm using.9.6 grn of n110 is giving me 3400 fps the 10.2 grains of n110 is 3610 fps .both charges are under a 5 pence with my chosen load of 10.2 with 20 grn v max in the .3's .i have not even tweaked seat depth (tuned the load ) because at that i know the gun will shoot under an inch at 300 yards and that is better than i can stear this tiny bullet in winds. it would just be a waste of barrel life in a hunting rifle.if it was a comp rifle or a rifle i intend to shoot much further i would tune more.if you sit watching a few reloading videos on you tube you will get the idea. it will all sound foreign but an hour of show and tell as such with a loader will make it all fall into place.reloading can be as much a pleasure as shooting once you get into it.

https://imgur.com/2ALLJbY

https://imgur.com/ALaqZBs

 

Edited by zx10mike

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:good:  nice.   You are absolutely right in that with smaller cases you have to be meticulous with powder measuring, even in the 17 Rem it can make a difference.

The 17s are all accurate shooters. I had the pleasure of shooting a 17 Mach IV when over in the USA in 1986 and that was when I ordered my first 17 Remington..

The only enemies are the wind and your own ability.

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The 17WSM got off to a rather unsteady start, hailed the new saviour there were issues in the US and it took forever to get to the UK,

There are still very few in the UK and ammunition availability/selection is far from good.

I don't have any gaps in my rifles that scream 17WSM at the moment, but it is possible my HMR and WMR could go if the WSM takes off, works, and has a decent supply of sensibly priced ammo.

Until then I'm more than happy to sit on the side lines and see what happens!

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2 hours ago, zx10mike said:

the best place to spend a bit extra is scales .i use gem pro 250 that register each kernel and are + or_ one kernel accurate. the scales where about £200 but you can get some goon balance beam scales for sub £100. you will need a press ,a lee will do the job .keep an eye out for second hand.hornet dies are about 35 pounds very cheap.all my reloading gear i tend to buy the best but the gear i have said will do the job.if you put a shout out for someone local to show you the ropes in reloading i'm sure someone will.your welcome over to mine in leicester if you ever want to see how easy it is to build good ammo.the 2 pictures i post are the hornet loads i'm using.9.6 grn of n110 is giving me 3400 fps the 10.2 grains of n110 is 3610 fps .both charges are under a 5 pence with my chosen load of 10.2 with 20 grn v max in the .3's .i have not even tweaked seat depth (tuned the load ) because at that i know the gun will shoot under an inch at 300 yards and that is better than i can stear this tiny bullet in winds. it would just be a waste of barrel life in a hunting rifle.if it was a comp rifle or a rifle i intend to shoot much further i would tune more.if you sit watching a few reloading videos on you tube you will get the idea. it will all sound foreign but an hour of show and tell as such with a loader will make it all fall into place.reloading can be as much a pleasure as shooting once you get into it.

https://imgur.com/2ALLJbY

https://imgur.com/ALaqZBs

 

That's a very kind offer, unfortunaly I'm too far away from you. I got some reading up to do on reloading! 

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I have a savage 17 wsm it's the laminate stock fluted barrel  and love it comfortable 200 250 rabbit /crow gun  

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